is more better

[Deadbeat 10+ year member]

seriously, if you cant read the OP, then your ability to understand English is the problem. OBVIOUSLY, some people on here don't have the ability to break up a few minor run on sentences in their heads. And being that 90% of the stuff typed on forums have run on sentences, mispronunciations, and improper punctuation. . . you must not be able to decipher much of anything over the net.

Or maybe . . . you are just nit-picking at how someone types in attempt to put them under you and prove to the internets that you are god like and just that **** cool.

I just don't buy it.

 

[dan7532 10+ year member]

this is a question that some people may fight about till they are blue in the face but the question is, are more subs better. I had a long talk with a student teacher that came to my school and he said more doesnt mean better. Now I believe that more is better with the right box. I have a 1991 crx si, and I own 4 15" memphis pr's dual 4 ohm with 2 1000d mono block memphis pr amps. I am still waiting to get my car to a friend who lives by memphis quality who is going to build me a box for it all. He has already been apart of 2 major systems in the area and they were 4 memphis m3's with 2 1500 watt. memphis m amps with his own custom box, and another system with 8 15" memphis pr with 2 1000d's memphis amps. Those 2 systems hit so hard all I could do was laugh (bass puts a smile on my face). so back on track the question is, are more sub's a waste of time or is more really better

I agree with the first post! I had a hell of a time keeping up with what you were saying and I stopped reading half wa through your novel. here you go though. more is not always better. if your sub is putting out 1000 watts rms and that's it than that's the power you have to work with. if you hook up 2 or more subs and your wondering if it will be louder than that's only gonna be the case if the xmax is larger than that of the sub your comparing it too. if I have one sub with a 1000 watt rms like the amp with the xmax of 1.1 in or so and I want to hook up two 500 watt subs with an xmax of .45 in than the one sub will move more air and be louder. there is a lot more to it than that but all being = than that's bout it. one sub is also going to give you better controle and it should sound cleaner than two. I'm sure someone will think otherwise though.

You're one to talk, these two posts look identical.

 

[Louisiana_CRX 5,000+ posts]

too much writing to read //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

I agree with the first post! I had a hell of a time keeping up with what you were saying and I stopped reading half wa through your novel. here you go though. more is not always better.

your post is just as bad as his

if your sub is putting out 1000 watts rms and that's it than that's the power you have to work with.

subs don't put out watts, subs take watts, the sound they put out is not mesured in watts, its measured in Decibels.

if you hook up 2 or more subs and your wondering if it will be louder than that's only gonna be the case if the xmax is larger than that of the sub your comparing it too.

this is not true. FYI

if I have one sub with a 1000 watt rms like the amp with the xmax of 1.1 in or so and I want to hook up two 500 watt subs with an xmax of .45 in than the one sub will move more air and be louder.

first, amps have an xmax? watch the misplaced modifiers.

second, thats absolute BS, xmax has very little to do with output potential.

5 JL audio 15w3's once obtained a world record of 171.somethin db's.

3rd, even if Xmax was a deciding factor you would also x2 cone area by using 2 subs making the output of the 2 almost x2 as loud... but the cone area and xmax are in reality not that important

there is a lot more to it than that but all being = than that's bout it. one sub is also going to give you better controle and it should sound cleaner than two. I'm sure someone will think otherwise though.

better controle and sound cleaner? how ya figure sports fan?

 

[c_james_s 10+ year member]

dang dude, talk about being pissed because you didn't get any this weekend! in regards to your comment about surface area I thought I could leave that out since I said all else being equal. I also said there was a lot more to it than that so quit sticking up for your lover //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I never said amps have an xmax. if your trying to show us all how smart you are and impress people than stop. to make you feel like you've accomplished something here ill print out your comments and stick them on the fridge! sound good?

 

[forbidden 10+ year member]

dang dude, talk about being pissed because you didn't get any this weekend! in regards to your comment about surface area I thought I could leave that out since I said all else being equal. I also said there was a lot more to it than that so quit sticking up for your lover //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I never said amps have an xmax. if your trying to show us all how smart you are and impress people than stop. to make you feel like you've accomplished something here ill print out your comments and stick them on the fridge! sound good?

Dude, your post is so inaccurate that I had to laugh. The box will make or break the output of the system. A sub with 96db will be louder than a sub with 90db, regardless of the xmax all other things (like the box and amp) being equal.

Instead of coming here and doing the cheese and whine show like your quote above, why not ask questions and learn instead of passing along misinformation?

 

[IDSkoT 5,000+ posts]

Why don't you take a english class and then come back and ask the question so we can understand it?

You act like you're any better.

Go QQ about some more ish in the lounge.

 

[c_james_s 10+ year member]

Dude, your post is so inaccurate that I had to laugh. The box will make or break the output of the system. A sub with 96db will be louder than a sub with 90db, regardless of the xmax all other things (like the box and amp) being equal.
Instead of coming here and doing the cheese and whine show like your quote above, why not ask questions and learn instead of passing along misinformation?

dude stop crying. I said your the best and I put you're printout up on the fridge next to your add on craigslist for male companionship //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif talk about lonely, this is probably the closest thing you've had to a real conversation in a while huh? I know your gonna say something else really smart so ill leave the printer on ok little guy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif let us have it!

 

[SHOemup233 10+ year member]

OP: More is better to a point. It all depends on the car and space available etc. Cramming 2 18's into 4 cubes would be a horrible idea as the 18's would need much more space to sound good and get loud. 1 15 in 4 cubes would be louder and sound much better. It is all install dependent.

second, thats absolute BS, xmax has very little to do with output potential.

5 JL audio 15w3's once obtained a world record of 171.somethin db's.

3rd, even if Xmax was a deciding factor you would also x2 cone area by using 2 subs making the output of the 2 almost x2 as loud... but the cone area and xmax are in reality not that important

Sealed xmax has a lot to do with output potential. Cone area also has a lot to do with output potential. Output is the combination of a bunch of different factors, yes, but xmax and cone area are among those factors. One doesn't trump the other, it is install dependent and all the factors are important.

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

OP: More is better to a point. It all depends on the car and space available etc. Cramming 2 18's into 4 cubes would be a horrible idea as the 18's would need much more space to sound good and get loud. 1 15 in 4 cubes would be louder and sound much better. It is all install dependent.


Sealed xmax has a lot to do with output potential. Cone area also has a lot to do with output potential. Output is the combination of a bunch of different factors, yes, but xmax and cone area are among those factors. One doesn't trump the other, it is install dependent and all the factors are important.

Yes Xmax has something to do with potential, but anyone on here will tell you it is 90% install

yes it also has a bigger influence in sealed than ported, but who runs sealed? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/plthumbsdown.gif.d7966af824c93c6021d1aae1778b1c19.gif JK

 

[cotjones 10+ year member]

dang dude, talk about being pissed because you didn't get any this weekend! in regards to your comment about surface area I thought I could leave that out since I said all else being equal. I also said there was a lot more to it than that so quit sticking up for your lover //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I never said amps have an xmax. if your trying to show us all how smart you are and impress people than stop. to make you feel like you've accomplished something here ill print out your comments and stick them on the fridge! sound good?

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif ur stupidity and defensiveness makes me lol

in reguards to surface area, all things (including) surface area are not equal when you go from 1 sub to 2.

ie: In your example you generalized and said 2 subs will be louder than one if their total Xmax is larger than the 1.

this is not allways or even offen true, even if surface area was the same, WHICH it is not.

and to tell someone that, is to tell them wrong, thats why i replied to your post. If you would like to go around and make stuff up and have people pat you on the back and believe it, leave. otherwise don't respond to people who know what they are talking about more than you with sarcasm and insult.

 

[c_james_s 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif ur stupidity and defensiveness makes me lol
in reguards to surface area, all things (including) surface area are not equal when you go from 1 sub to 2.

ie: In your example you generalized and said 2 subs will be louder than one if their total Xmax is larger than the 1.

this is not allways or even offen true, even if surface area was the same, WHICH it is not.

and to tell someone that, is to tell them wrong, thats why i replied to your post. If you would like to go around and make stuff up and have people pat you on the back and believe it, leave. otherwise don't respond to people who know what they are talking about more than you with sarcasm and insult.

wow, you told me! I think your just mad because you realized your subs xmax is bigger than your johnson

 

[Blinkrazy 10+ year member]

I agree with the first post! I had a hell of a time keeping up with what you were saying and I stopped reading half wa through your novel. here you go though. more is not always better. if your sub is putting out 1000 watts rms and that's it than that's the power you have to work with. if you hook up 2 or more subs and your wondering if it will be louder than that's only gonna be the case if the xmax is larger than that of the sub your comparing it too. if I have one sub with a 1000 watt rms like the amp with the xmax of 1.1 in or so and I want to hook up two 500 watt subs with an xmax of .45 in than the one sub will move more air and be louder. there is a lot more to it than that but all being = than that's bout it. one sub is also going to give you better controle and it should sound cleaner than two. I'm sure someone will think otherwise though.

wow thats some stupid shit

one won't necessarily sound better than two

xmax = bull.... thats the cone excursion... not necessarily controlling the loudnessof a particular woofer:crazy:

SUBS DONT "PUT OUT RMS!!!!!!" your retarded

 

[forbidden 10+ year member]

dude stop crying. I said your the best and I put you're printout up on the fridge next to your add on craigslist for male companionship //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif talk about lonely, this is probably the closest thing you've had to a real conversation in a while huh? I know your gonna say something else really smart so ill leave the printer on ok little guy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif let us have it!

I think you like printing out others people comments to post on your own fridge as a poor mans self help guide. You seem to be so stuck on other people's comments it is the only thing that makes sense.

 

[DBDRAGGUY 10+ year member]

this is a question that some people may fight about till they are blue in the face but the question is, are more subs better. I had a long talk with a student teacher that came to my school and he said more doesnt mean better. Now I believe that more is better with the right box. I have a 1991 crx si, and I own 4 15" memphis pr's dual 4 ohm with 2 1000d mono block memphis pr amps. I am still waiting to get my car to a friend who lives by memphis quality who is going to build me a box for it all. He has already been apart of 2 major systems in the area and they were 4 memphis m3's with 2 1500 watt. memphis m amps with his own custom box, and another system with 8 15" memphis pr with 2 1000d's memphis amps. Those 2 systems hit so hard all I could do was laugh (bass puts a smile on my face). so back on track the question is, are more sub's a waste of time or is more really better

I am still learning about my CRX, but I can tell you this cone area in that car is not always the best option. I have experimented with a few setups in mine and they are all close in output. 2 -12's 153.7db, 2- 15's 154.2db, 1- 15 153.0db. My testing is all for spl but the car works on velocity and for as daily application it applies in the same way.

In short you may not see a huge gain with 4-15's as opposed to just running a pair.