Ok...last post. I never said Kicker wasn't good product...just saying they are overrated. You can get offended and YES I did validate my own opinion... j/k. There are many people that feel like I do...Obviously you haven't heard any of my setups, or anybody that competes with kicker. Anything you tried to make with sony or kenwood would get it's *** handed to it.
And this is coming from a guy who has used alpine before. Type-r's are good for the money for sure. Some of the best subs I've used. However, type-e's are subpar and the type-'s tended to be real peaky and liked higher frequencys.
I love most alpine headunits (older models anyways) and their new amps are sleek and powerful for the size.
I'm still unsure as to how your opinion got "validated". Did you validate it yourself?
Kicker amps do in fact, for the most part, put out more than their rated power. I've seen some birthsheets for the zx750's and the zx1500's. Some 750's put out over 100 more than what their rated at. Some 1500's put out over 150 more than what they were rated as well. I agree with you on this one.kicker makes good products for the money and stand behind their product very good, i have never had a problem sending a item back to kicker even if it was my fault and i messed up the sub they still took care of it and sent me a brand new sub with no questions asked, they have excellent CS and the square subs i recall has more cone area so in the same ideal conditions and same sub ratings as in power and sens, and ideal box specs and same vehicle and same power the square would be louder because of the cone area, i recall cone area has alot to do with how loud it can get
and how many guys have won SQ comps with solo x's 18's several guys have so dont come in here bashing a product that is very reliable and is good for the money, and their amps are underrated and do much more power than said to do and its clean good signal too
you try to get 2 12's sony xplod's against my 2 12's l7's on same power 1500rms ohh wait you cant they will only handle 300rms if that give them w/e power u want and u wont be louder than my 2 12's with a sony sub
I don't think they are necessarily overrated in the sense you are getting at. They are just a MUCH MUCH larger company than others you are referring to. Of course they are going to have more people that love them and hate them, it's the nature of the beast.Ok...last post. I never said Kicker wasn't good product...just saying they are overrated. You can get offended and YES I did validate my own opinion... j/k. There are many people that feel like I do...
What I was saying about the Kenwood and Sony stuff is that Kicker is sold right along side those products....you can spend a lot less, right out of the box and have a louder (or just as loud) system. In comps...yes they will win but Kicker isn't sold along with competition product.
Whatever...I'm OUT! Message me if you really want to get into it...but I don't care enough. I just think its funny how I said nothing threatening, AND gave valid points (yeah I said it) yet since you run Kicker you got really offended.
To recap:
Kicker:Overated not bad product
Can get cheaper stuff to be just as loud...
Square subs=gimmick (even if developed by pioneer first)
Internet fighting=stupid