what do u mean the crossover is set too high? I dont recall seeing any adjustment knobs on the cross over.Ima go with u have ur crossover set to high.....what comps you have..see how low they are able to go down to...and go from there
Also could be on the radio or amp
Where is this "filter frequency" set, on the e2150? Looks like that is what JL calls it - that is WAY, WAY too high. Turn off the system and turn the filter more switch to off and fire it back up (with the volume down) and see how it sounds.I have the filter frequency set to 200hz and I think that is the problem right? Well actually, the audio guy set it to 200hz cuz he said it would be less stressful on the crossover. I dont think he knows what hes talking about.
Yes, I am running a Jl 10w6v2 and it bumps hard lol. I adjusted the frequency on the e2150 to 80hz instead of 200..lol. What frequency on the subwoofer amp would compliment this?Where is this "filter frequency" set, on the e2150? Looks like that is what JL calls it - that is WAY, WAY too high. Turn off the system and turn the filter more switch to off and fire it back up (with the volume down) and see how it sounds.
At some point you may have to switch the high pass back on but at a much lower setting, like 60 or maybe 80 if you have a sub. The component specs say they can play down to 45hz (if you believe the claims) so you could just the filter frequency down to its lowest position (50).
Are you running a sub? If so, then you want the crossover point on the sub amp to be complementary to the high pass on the e2150.
1) Turn the volume on the head unit all the way down.
2) Turn it all off
3) Flip the amp switch to filter mode = off
4) Turn it all back on
5) Slowly raise the volume and see how it sounds.
Dennis
So turning it down to 80 "fixed" the mids?Yes, I am running a Jl 10w6v2 and it bumps hard lol. I adjusted the frequency on the e2150 to 80hz instead of 200..lol. What frequency on the subwoofer amp would compliment this?
The filter mode on the e2150 is on hp right now. What does all this mean?
off/hp/lp
So I should leave it at off???
Yes, I turned it the e2150 (filter frequency) down to 80hz and I can hear the mids now. The JL 500/1s filter frequency is at 55hz. How would I adjust the highs on the components to make em less brightSo turning it down to 80 "fixed" the mids?
The JL sub should be a nice one, but it would depend on the type of box and install as to how high (of a frequency) it would play. I would try setting the sub amp low pass at 80 hz or a little less and leave the component amp at 80 hz and see how that sounds to you. If you can borrow a signal generator or a test tone CD you want to "sweep" the frequencies and listen to see if the overall level is fairly flat - no holes are dips. If you cross the sub too high its output will be weak and leave a "hole" before the mids get going. If you have an overlap there will be too much volume at those frequencies. If you set both amp's controls the same and they are both labelled correctly you will end up with a little "boom" or peak because that is where the roll off STARTS - so you would end up setting them a little off from one another to get the perfect blend where they cross. How much depends on the slope of the control.
The switch means:
OFF: Does nothing to the signal, just amplifies and send it to the speakers
LP: Low Pass = Passes the lows (thus also blocks the highs) - if you were running a sub on the amp this is position you would just and the control dial would determine the highest frequency passed before level roll off occurs.
HP: High Pass = Passes the highs (blocks the lows) - the position you want it in to keep the frequencies the sub is handling out of the front speakers. In this mode, the control dial set the lowest frequency that will pass before attenuation of the signal begins.
WIth no test tones: You could turn off the sub and just run the fronts, crank up the fronts and see how they sound. Put on on bass heavy music and see how they handle it. If you hear distortion on the lowest notes then turn the filter up to block those from the fronts. Once you can get it sound good without distortion then you have found a good setting for that filter. Add the sub back in and see how it sounds, raise the crossover point on it as needed - if you had to raise the front amp's setting to prevent distortion due to low frequencies. Make sure you don't overdrive the mids/tweets while playing with this.
In general if you cross too high upper bass will seem to come from the sub when it should be coming from the mids. Lower frequencies are not directional so having a single sub or pair mounted behind you does not mess up your soundstage.
What head unit are you using and does it have any sub or line level filters in it as well? Make sure you are not "double crossing" by having cross over points set in the head unit and on the amps.
Dennis
How would I adjust the highs on the components to make em less brightYes, I turned it the e2150 (filter frequency) down to 80hz and I can hear the mids now. The JL 500/1s filter frequency is at 55hz. How would I adjust the highs on the components to make em less bright
I have a pioneer deh880prs.
10w6v2 is in a sealed box .80 cubic ft
I've adjusted a few things and now I can crank up my volume a lot more w/o it sounding too loud or distorted. But now my sub isn't hitting very hard. The bass is a lot clean/low than before, but it lacks BOOM.
So what would you recommend me set it to? Off/hp/lp??
Will do.How would I adjust the highs on the components to make em less bright
There may be a tweeter level adjustment on each of the cross overs. It may be a jumper or a switch - check the owner's manual. A lot of component sets now include 2 or 3 or more tweeters settings on the crossover. It may be labelled -0, -1, -2 or something. Try a lower setting and see if that tames the highs. The PG web page is really bad and I could not find any online docs about this.
You might want to turn the sub crossover up a little higher than 55 and maybe some more gain.
If you are using the crossover built into the Pioneer than there is probably a sub level adjustment in that as well.
Ideally, you want to adjust the input levels on the amps so they will produce rated power when you have the head unit cranked up to about 3/4 volume. If the speakers are rated to take less power than than the amp can provide, then you need to adjust to that power lever with the head unit at 3/4. Distortion kills audio equipment and if you turn it up too much it the amp may distort and blow your speakers and/or melt the amp. Once the levels a set right, you can use the sub level control in the head unit or maybe a remote control for the sub amp to control the level or the sub - hopefully to turn it DOWN to blend in with the components. If you turn it up, then you may over drive the amp and will need to re-set the levels on the amp. If you can't make it loud enough then you need either more/bigger subs or more amp power.
Af far as the switch on the components amp, leave it in HP to keep the low bass out of the components.
I would get a test tone CD and a digital volt meter and get the level set properly, then go from there setting the sound like you like it w/o blowing anything up.
Dennis
Let the sub play a little higher frequencies. If you have happy with the sound, then leave it alone //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif .What would turning up the filter frequency do to the subwoofer?