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[DNick454 10+ year member]

it was nice taking a crap on many of you, showing the public how dumb and how illiterate many of you are.

Yeah crooked wheels 4 life! PC

Don't flatter yourself. You didn't prove a single point. When confronted, you contradicted yourself on every matter. int4rw3bz > j00

 

[Fast1one 10+ year member]

there is a difference between simple mods trying to class up a car, and major modifications such as: crooked wheels, over the top lowering of the vehicle, body kits, stripper poles. ect. Like the definition of poser said "exaggerated" which the vip style and your modifications are.
Basically it looks like crap because none of it is subtle.

Shall I post the badass car again for ya? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/confused.gif.e820e0216602db4765798ac39d28caa9.gif

vip can be subtle or aggressive. You are making WAY too many assumptions about the scene. Like assuming people don't modify the engine, which is completely WRONG. Most enthusiasts modify the performance with at least bolt ons. Others go as far as engine swaps, custom turbo setups, etc.

The most important aspect about the vip scene (BTW its not an acronym, its a word) is the platform. Generally, the G35 is not an ideal cantidate (no offense donpisto). It would be considered vip STYLE at most. Only the flagship big bodied sedans are used. NOT midsize, must be RWD with at least 8 cylinders. The U.S. Doesn't have very many options when compared to Japan, but generally the list is exclusively reserved to:

Infiniti Q45

Lexus LS400/430/460

Lexus GS400 (little stretch)

Infiniti M45 (again, a little stretch)

In Japan, you have:

Toyota Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta.

Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, and Cedric

THATS it. These aren't cheap cars. At least 50K+ when new. The main theme of the scene is to make the car UNIQUE. Whether it be custom body work, custom interiors with luxurious amenities and custom engine work.

Why, do you ask? Because any regular joe can go buy himself a Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti, or any other luxury brand and blend with the rest. For that matter, any average joe can slap some wheels and drop springs and call it customized.

It takes creativity to set yourself apart from the rest. A real enthusiast recognizes, REGARDLESS on what the scene is (be it import, vip, muscle, off-road, etc). To think outside the norm and create something new. Its not just about buying parts. Donpisto had the right idea with the stripper pole. Its something that hasn't really been done (at least not often). It makes his car unique.

I really couldn't care less if you or others liked it or not. But don't call the scene a bunch of posers just because you don't understand the community. It's like me telling a muscle car guy to buy more up to date technology. Its a hobby and a passion.

 

[donpisto 5,000+ posts]

there is a difference between simple mods trying to class up a car, and major modifications such as: crooked wheels, over the top lowering of the vehicle, body kits, stripper poles. ect. Like the definition of poser said "exaggerated" which the vip style and your modifications are.
Basically it looks like crap because none of it is subtle.

So VIP cars must look subtle to look good? Lol. Maybe in YOUR opinion, which I can understand, but don't go around preaching that's how it's supposed to be. Some take it to an extreme, for example, theres a guy with a 19x11.5 with a -51 offset as I mentioned earlier. Car still looks good IMO, in others' it doesn't, but it's still VIP.

it was nice taking a crap on many of you, showing the public how dumb and how illiterate many of you are.

Yeah crooked wheels 4 life! PC

Seems like you crapped your pants because i don't know what points you proved other than making yourself looking stupid, hence, crapping your pants.

 

[thxsubwoofers 10+ year member]

I agree with Fast1one, his taste in VIP cars is almost similar to mines. Except for the rear camber, which I prefer on certain cars. Even for me, i love VIP cars and see it almost every time when I go out. I do prefer VIP cars clean with out all the crazy customize fenders as you will see in VIP magazines. Airrunner, Rims, Body kit, exhaust, brakes, and a good SQ sound system is good enough for me. All of this custom fenders, super high exhaust is considered extreme VIP. I respect that you put hard work into it, but i would not do it to my own car. VIP to me, in my opinion is to keep it clean and simple.

 

[thxsubwoofers 10+ year member]

Heres my example

Drop and wheels

Full Junction Produce

An LS430 Turbo custom, or you could do Tom's Super Charger

Extreme VIP style Wagon, don't know who makes this car. Again I wouldn't do it, but I respect the time and customize to create it.

More VIP style

 

[.M3THOD. 10+ year member]

those don't even follow the qulifications for VIP^^^ which Don Pisto layed out for all. you guys startposting civics, auto-x crap and shit about performance.... but I am contradicting hahaha Idiots

I also never said all vip needs to be subtle, but most of the time it isn't anywhere near subtle and looks rediculous.

I simply said your car (g35) looks like shit because you took everything way too far. It looks like your car is falling apart haha Nothing luxurious about that.

You guys take generalized statements and make them what you want to hear. Then you take the specific ones and apply them to the broad sense. Comprehension is not any of your strong suits huh?

I made plenty of sense in my statements, you choose not to or maybe don't have the mental capacity to comprehend. Not my fault.

But none of you answered how a stipper pole is luxury? as well as extreme camber to make your wheels look lopsided? how about the pointlessly streched tires to the point you have a large gap between lip and rubber? where is the luxury in that? can't wait for the next lopsided benzo, you think I could hit up bently or rolls royce for some crooked wheels and a stripper pole? I mean I want pure luxury and vip styling //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[thxsubwoofers 10+ year member]

I already talked about this, look at the earlier pages. I posted two cars an LS400, and a q45 F50. Not one said on this forum on how to mod a proper luxury sedan, or even post a pic of a clean modded luxury sedan. I'm talking about the original chassis, not VIP style cars. If they want to have camber, its up to them its personal preference.

 

[dr_peeb 10+ year member]

I see no posts in the last ~8 hours.

Does my side win then? We all agree then that slanted wheels and stretched tires look stupid as h3ll? And VIP is just a name y'all have given to the stupid slanted wheels and stretched tires look, to try to give it some sense of validity? ... Kinda like the way ghay people ruined the rainbow.

Good then ... on to the next topic!

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

I see no posts in the last ~8 hours.
Does my side win then? We all agree then that slanted wheels and stretched tires look stupid as h3ll? And VIP is just a name y'all have given to the stupid slanted wheels and stretched tires look, to try to give it some sense of validity? ... Kinda like the way ghay people ruined the rainbow.

Good then ... on to the next topic!

You can stop poasting now. I respected a lot of what you had to say, but with this post, it went all out of the window.

You're no better than anyone else that hates change and will not look favorably on something new.

Let's face it, tastes are changing.

I personally am more of a classic car guy now... I've driven a few older Impala's, and really would love to get further into it. So, I guess you could say that I'm NOT a VIP 'nut-hugger' but I still understand the culture around it and respect it because at the end of the day, it's not going anywhere.

It's going to be here whether you like it or not. You can call it 'slanted wheels' all you want, but you need to realize that the suspension work involved in getting it to that kind of geometry is just as detailed as a backhalf with full coil overs for a pro-street car.

Or, you can continue to look ignorant, like .method. or whatever his name is. No matter what he says, he always backtracks out of it and returns to grade-school language and name-calling.

The car you've probably seen in my sig is just ONE of my tastes in cars. It's a shame to see people with a closed mind not open up to new experiences.

The Maxima.

Impala Aero-coupe

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

extreme camber to make your wheels look lopsided? how about the pointlessly streched tires to the point you have a large gap between lip and rubber? where is the luxury in that?

Stretching the tire has been common in many eastern European counties for a long time now. Local laws in Germany, and Belgium for instance, state that the tire tread must be located IN the distance of the fender. Meaning that anyone wanting to run an aggressive offset/width wheel MUST limit the size of the tire.

We don't have any such laws in America, hence why it was never a NECESSARY thing. However, the look was adopted by the Far East and hence we got it a few years later.

And yes, MANY high end dealerships DO stretch tires at factory dealers in Germany.

Is it unsafe? I haven't found ONE single report of a car failing due to camber issues or tire stretching.

Once again, ignorance is bliss.

 

[J31Rob 5,000+ posts]

Holy metalwork batman! that's not chopped, that's a hellacious amount of bodywork on those quarters and doors.

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Prettyful.

 

[dr_peeb 10+ year member]

You can stop poasting now. I respected a lot of what you had to say, but with this post, it went all out of the window.
You're no better than anyone else that hates change and will not look favorably on something new.

Let's face it, tastes are changing.

I personally am more of a classic car guy now... I've driven a few older Impala's, and really would love to get further into it. So, I guess you could say that I'm NOT a VIP 'nut-hugger' but I still understand the culture around it and respect it because at the end of the day, it's not going anywhere.

It's going to be here whether you like it or not. You can call it 'slanted wheels' all you want, but you need to realize that the suspension work involved in getting it to that kind of geometry is just as detailed as a backhalf with full coil overs for a pro-street car.

Or, you can continue to look ignorant, like .method. or whatever his name is. No matter what he says, he always backtracks out of it and returns to grade-school language and name-calling.

The car you've probably seen in my sig is just ONE of my tastes in cars. It's a shame to see people with a closed mind not open up to new experiences.

Look lil feller ... I understand it takes a lot of work to make wheels slanted like that; That doesn't mean it looks good. I understand it's more work to "seat" tires (air blast 'em on I guess) that are too narrow for these wide rims; That doesn't mean it looks good. I understand "VIP" people like curtains; That doesn't mean it looks good. That's all I'm saying; None of the details and reasons for any of this so-called VIP stuff mean it looks good. It doesn't; It looks goofy.

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

And some of those fancy luxury vehicles...

Bentley wheels, bet they cost a pretty penny:

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

Look lil feller ... I understand it takes a lot of work to make wheels slanted like that; That doesn't mean it looks good. I understand it's more work to "seat" tires (air blast 'em on I guess) that are too narrow for these wide rims; That doesn't mean it looks good. I understand "VIP" people like curtains; That doesn't mean it looks good. That's all I'm saying; None of the details and reasons for any of this so-called VIP stuff mean it looks good. It doesn't; It looks goofy.

'lil feller' Hah.

"You got a perdy mouf, boy!"

 

[Loud3 10+ year member]

Sexiest M3 I've ever laid eyes on. Nothing luxury about this car, folks!