Tens of millions seems like a large number of people to me. And I know some legals that were born here but spent most of their life in Mexico, can speak english fine(but not precisely fluent), and would rather speak in spanish. So it's not just the illegals that they're accomodating, but a smaller portion of the legal population also. I'm sure any business would love an 8-10% increase in sales, as I'm sure you'd love a 10% raise as well.
Tens of millions is the number of people here illegally. That doesn't mean they can't speak english. You're talking about a very small percentage of people here. And then you have to think about how many places have the option to speak to a spanish speaking representative. The issue that you're complaining about is so minuscule that when you look at the big picture it's darn near irrelevant. You're talking about like less than 5% of the entire population and it doesn't even affect you. It allows businesses to reach a larger demographic and makes things easier for American citizens. Or did you forget about the legal citizens it helps?
They don't care about the businesses that hire the illegals they only care about the illegals. Nobody is putting a gun to business owners heads and telling them to hire illegals. People are choosing to hire them. I said it in the other thread, if someone feels that a business turned them down for a position to hire an illegal immigrant then report the business. But people would rather just complain that illegal immigrants are "taking" their jobs instead of actually doing something about it
I think you'd be shocked at the number of illegals who can't speak but a few words of english.
Again, accomodating people who do not choose to learn english. You're further proving my point that we are accomodating people who do not want to blend in with American society and live by the same rules. If I were to live in Mexico I certainly wouldn't expect to speak english all the time and expect people to accomodate my lack of skill of the national language. Hell, I know guys who have been here 25 years and I still have a hard time understanding them...they live in their own Mexican environment with their stores/restaurant/etc ran by Mexicans, where they don't ever have/need to speak english, so they never learn to.
I already covered that it helps legal citizens as well, but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't learn to speak english, since, ye know, it is the national language. I'll give a lot more leniency to someone who has gone through the legal process of becoming a citizen and still has a hard time with the language, but people who break the law by coming here illegally, don't pay taxes, and fraud the system in many more ways, just do not deserve the benefit of the doubt...sorry. I also already said that businesses do it in order to capture the non english speaking portion of the country, which although may seem small to you, certainly seems important enough to these companies in order to raise their revenue.
Wouldn't that be a racist thing to do? Sounds like racial profiling to me.
ummmm how is telling someone here illegally that you won't hire them racist? If you're hiring someone the proper way they have to fill out a W-4 and have a social security number and most places ask if you're legally allowed to work in the U.S on the application. If they can't provide that then you know they're here illegally and you can tell them you would be glad to hire them once they get a green card and are able to work here legally. That's not racial profiling.
Not speaking a language fluently is different from not being able to speak it at all.
Where are the rules that say you have to speak english in America? If they choose to speak Spanish instead of English they have that choice, there's no rules against it. This country is diverse, that's the way it's always been. People speak different languages here. Hispanics didn't come here asking for people to accommodate to them. Like you said typically hispanics that speak more spanish than english live in their own communities where everybody else speaks spanish as well. They're not breaking any laws by speaking Spanish but yet you still have a problem with it.
It makes no difference whether they're here legally or illegally. There's no law against speaking Spanish in the U.S. so they're not doing anything wrong. This country welcomes people of all nationalities and races and we coexist. If it wasn't working well then I could see why you would complain. But it's been working fine. Your closed minded views are in the minority and maybe some day you will realize that this country welcomes people of all nationalities and if they wish to speak another language other than English they have that right. You want to take away people's rights now? Should the whole country be Christan too? Where does it stop?
Let me explain why that is, you cant seem to follow my logic. If Mexicans follow our laws and immigrate here legally in numbers that alter our language, that would be one thing. But they aren't.
Im really finding it hard to understand why you are having so much trouble following my logic. Ive said, specifically now, that the language thing to me is simply a sign of how large the illegal immigrant problem is.
Yes, you have, in so many words. You dont want to change the crietria for which they are available to live here. You just want to remove the 'illegally' from in front of their title.
