Im becoming a box builder FTW

[TheSpeakerMan 10+ year member]

This is how im going to do it i think.

By Steps

1-Wood cut from HOme Depot

2- Glue first with carpenters glue

3-While glue is drying nail some nails to keep straight

4-Screw in Screws

5-Silicone the joints of where the wood meets.

Sound good?I heard something about drill holes first then screw but i have no power drill. So will it be ok. The wood wont split.

Any tips about wut to glue first second third so on?

Example Bottom then sides then ports then top or something like that?

Any tips from u experienced box builders. I will take into notice any tips as seeing u guys are the experienced guys and im the rookie at box building. THnx Mark

P.S- My box is Moe Lesters plans 3.0@35hz. THank god for Moe Lester

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[AcidicDreams 10+ year member]

This is how im going to do it i think.
By Steps

1-Wood cut from HOme Depot

2- Glue first with carpenters glue

3-While glue is drying nail some nails to keep straight

4-Screw in Screws

5-Silicone the joints of where the wood meets.

Sound good?I heard something about drill holes first then screw but i have no power drill. So will it be ok. The wood wont split.

Any tips about wut to glue first second third so on?

Example Bottom then sides then ports then top or something like that?

Any tips from u experienced box builders. I will take into notice any tips as seeing u guys are the experienced guys and im the rookie at box building. THnx Mark

P.S- My box is Moe Lesters plans 3.0@35hz. THank god for Moe Lester

if you have clamps to hold the box till the wood glues you don't need screws or nails, they are merely used to hold the wood together till the glue dries... also MDF WILL split if you don't predrill holes so skip that idea. Also instead of siliconing joints mix wood glue with the MDF sawdust to make your own sealant. It will dry much harder and won't let off any fumes...

 

[forceofwill 10+ year member]

You can just use small finishing nails instead of screws, will prevent splitting. Like he said, they're just there to hold it till the glue dries. Also, I've always used liquid nails instead of wood glue, but either works.

 

[TheSpeakerMan 10+ year member]

i wont have sawdust since i am not cutting the wood. But i will take all ure tips into consideration when im am building my first box. Is there any other ways to keep wood straight while the glue drys since i dont have any clamps and i dont wanna use any screws since they Will split the wood.

Would this work I got an idea.

Use nails to keep the wood straight wile the glue drys. Or will nails split the MDF wood to? This is different then my first conception seeing im wouldnt use any screws.

 

[TheSpeakerMan 10+ year member]

i was typing wile u was typin u just finished be4 me so thats why i just repeated wut u said

 

[MadAudio 10+ year member]

first i would say check with your Home depot first the ones in my area will only do rough cuts .

second i would say do the cuts yourself places like home depot or lowes will usually cut a bit crooked . do a search, with places like this its hit or miss.

doing it yourself is easy using a circular saw and a cutting guide . hell i built my whole setup using a dremel and a jigsaw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

also get yourself some cheap clamps you will be glad you did in the long run can be had for around 5-10 bucks at big chain hardware stores.

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS predrill holes or the wood WILL split. dont learn it the hard way take my word for it .

remember the screws dont hold the wood together the glue does.they arent even really needed provided the box can he held tightly together while the glue dries ( this is where clamps come in) .

 

[MadAudio 10+ year member]

AcidDreams mixing glue with sawdust ive heard of this but isnt that more like wood putty than a sealant? iIRC elmers makes a wood filler just like that. i wouldnt reccomend it if not mixed right it will be to stiff and crack under the pressure

 

[TheSpeakerMan 10+ year member]

i dont have a saw and im new in my area so i dont know any 1 with a saw or else i would cut my self. I will tell the ppl that i need precise cuts since i am building a sub box. If the wood isnt straight enough for me i just wont buy it. THey could kiss my *** if the cuts arent satisfactory. If i used little nails then i wouldnt need any clamps. But since every1 is telling i will be benifited in the long run i will probally invest in some clamps.

 

[blue 10+ year member]

first i would say check with your Home depot first the ones in my area will only do rough cuts .second i would say do the cuts yourself places like home depot or lowes will usually cut a bit crooked . do a search, with places like this its hit or miss.

doing it yourself is easy using a circular saw and a cutting guide . hell i built my whole setup using a dremel and a jigsaw //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

also get yourself some cheap clamps you will be glad you did in the long run can be had for around 5-10 bucks at big chain hardware stores.

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS predrill holes or the wood WILL split. dont learn it the hard way take my word for it .

remember the screws dont hold the wood together the glue does.they arent even really needed provided the box can he held tightly together while the glue dries ( this is where clamps come in) .

X2 on everything you have said so far ..... Do it right , or don't do it. There is NO substitute for wood glue. If clamped and allowed to dry , the joint becomes stronger than the wood surrounding the joint. Pre-drilled wood screws are for MORE than just holding the wood together until the glue dries ...... It takes stress relief off the glued joint once the glue is dry , and relieves the glue from holding the entire thing together all by itself. If you place a screw every three inches apart , the longest span the glue has to hold is three inches ..... If you use NO screws , the glue has to hold the entire length of any one joint on the box together. Whcih do you think would be stronger against vibrations ? Nails are OUT of the picture unless you have a nail gun. NOTHING beats a good 50 yr silicone for sealing the seams .......

This is simple ...... There is the right way to build a box , and there are the other ways .....

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

X2 on everything you have said so far ..... Do it right , or don't do it. There is NO substitute for wood glue. If clamped and allowed to dry , the joint becomes stronger than the wood surrounding the joint. Pre-drilled wood screws are for MORE than just holding the wood together until the glue dries ...... It takes stress relief off the glued joint once the glue is dry , and relieves the glue from holding the entire thing together all by itself. If you place a screw every three inches apart , the longest span the glue has to hold is three inches ..... If you use NO screws , the glue has to hold the entire length of any one joint on the box together. Whcih do you think would be stronger against vibrations ? Nails are OUT of the picture unless you have a nail gun. NOTHING beats a good 50 yr silicone for sealing the seams .......This is simple ...... There is the right way to build a box , and there are the other ways .....

I agree with most of that.

Just know this, when you build your first box, and you have nothing that you need (ie tools) its gonna be a hell of a lot more expensive then you think/budget.

You need a drill. You need clamps. you need screws. You need drill bits. You need something to seal the inside, wether it be silicone, or liquid nails. You need a caulk gun to get any use out of liquid nails/silicon.at first it gets expensive, but afterwards, its worth it to buy all the tools you need. if this is a one time thing, then its probably best to have someone do it for you

 

[Decipha 10+ year member]

mix wood glue with the MDF sawdust

i thought i was the only person that did that, but however, i only do that when i don't have caulk at hand, i'd recommend the caulk but i've had good results using sawdust, just make sure its not too thick, i like to mix it in a bowl and stir it with a chop stick, make sure it stays liquid so you can spread it... don't really need much sawdust

just my .02

 

[MadAudio 10+ year member]

Pre-drilled wood screws are for MORE than just holding the wood together until the glue dries ...... It takes stress relief off the glued joint once the glue is dry , and relieves the glue from holding the entire thing together all by itself. If you place a screw every three inches apart , the longest span the glue has to hold is three inches ..... If you use NO screws , the glue has to hold the entire length of any one joint on the box together. Whcih do you think would be stronger against vibrations ?

pfft fine so i got one kinda wrong //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif personally i do use wood screws just not like a screw nazi hehe .

and about tools.....

i know everyone doesnt have the right tools but honestly if your creative the right tool can be anything from a used jigsaw or used circular saw from a swap meet or fleamarket to a cnc machine.all you need is a straight cut .

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

Hacksaw, Nail file and a Screwdriver FTW

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

You'll inevitably find some way to fuck it up.

nG

 

[lubetek 10+ year member]

well I didn't read through the thread but I will add my 2 cents.

wood clamps,

pre-drilled holes,

3/4" MDF,

Elmers Pro bond,

clean, straight, smooth cuts.

Did I mention clamps?

Clamps will save you. They cost a bit but worth every penny.