I Think I Need a Truck Already!!!

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

time is a major factor and time is not ignored, just for this example it is undetermined as of yet...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif...im sure someone can crunch numbers and figure out the time allocated with the peak of a clean signal vs. the time of a plateau of a clipped signal, but i dont want to and probably cant calculate that right now...(i failed calculus //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif)

Time is being ignored. I think werewolf explained it best...
""DC" most certainly is an "average over time" ... but the million dollar question is, how much time?

 

Strictly speaking, the answer is easy ... over all time. But that's rarely very helpful

 

At the other extreme, it's reasonable to believe we can't average over a millisecond, and call that "DC". So what's a reasonable time interval?

 

I'll float a trial balloon, and suggest the following :

 

To be considered DC, the averaging time interval must significantly exceed all interesting time constants of the system.

 

These time constants include electrical ... the familiar "RC" time constants of first order fitlers, for example ... as well as any thermal time constants. Only when the time interval exceeds any "knowledge of time" that the system contains, would we be justified in considering a signal to be "DC"." - http://www.audiogroupforum.com/csforum/showthread.php?t=4332&highlight=clipping&page=4

That should end this tangent argument. I hope it does.The main argument was why clipping destroys a speaker. You and several others seem to think there are two types of watts, clean watts and dirty watts. There are only watts. The amount of power under the wave in a clipping situation is greater than that of the non clipped wave. This results in more power, but the same amplitude. The notion that the squared wave form means the cone stops is incorrect. Its the extra power that the squared wave delivers that will destroy the speaker, not the acctual shape of the wave.

Read the thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[shurl0ck]

so back to the truck part. can someone help me to do hair tricks with my ranger xlt ext cab. i also wanna use 2 12 cvrs

 

[thxsubwoofers 10+ year member]

not mad. im from LI. not beach season year round, but during the summer, popular to contrary belief, we have the best beaches around. as well as the best girls around. doesnt get any better than that. what would i need to visit hawaii for?

The best girls around oh please...................................................

 

[yama168 10+ year member]

I think the op will get better results if he kept his mouth shut and listens to the answers he gets to his questions, rather then open his mouth, make big claims and shuts his ears to the answers...

Aloha

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

Winter is coming soon and there is nothing like warm weather and paradise we have here in hawaii. And plus one of the best beaches! Too bad we're not freezing our *****, like the mainland... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

i live 15 minutes from cocoa beach... where i may see 3 or 4 60 degree days in all of winter lol

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

Racist or no I'll still never be able to get my truck loud //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif

agreed... but isn't lakota hitting 151 with a single type R 15 in a truck?

 

[thxsubwoofers 10+ year member]

thats florida............................................ And didn't you folks had a cold front, let me see a week or couple weeks ago? said on the weather channel.

 

[Mr.B 10+ year member]

Time is being ignored. I think werewolf explained it best...
""DC" most certainly is an "average over time" ... but the million dollar question is, how much time?

 

Strictly speaking, the answer is easy ... over all time. But that's rarely very helpful

 

At the other extreme, it's reasonable to believe we can't average over a millisecond, and call that "DC". So what's a reasonable time interval?

 

I'll float a trial balloon, and suggest the following :

 

To be considered DC, the averaging time interval must significantly exceed all interesting time constants of the system.

 

These time constants include electrical ... the familiar "RC" time constants of first order fitlers, for example ... as well as any thermal time constants. Only when the time interval exceeds any "knowledge of time" that the system contains, would we be justified in considering a signal to be "DC"." - http://www.audiogroupforum.com/csforum/showthread.php?t=4332&highlight=clipping&page=4

That should end this tangent argument. I hope it does.The main argument was why clipping destroys a speaker. You and several others seem to think there are two types of watts, clean watts and dirty watts. There are only watts. The amount of power under the wave in a clipping situation is greater than that of the non clipped wave. This results in more power, but the same amplitude. The notion that the squared wave form means the cone stops is incorrect. Its the extra power that the squared wave delivers that will destroy the speaker, not the acctual shape of the wave.

Read the thread. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

oh, i guess i was micromanaging the time idea rather than looking at the big picture. and i agree, power is power, regardless of an unclipped or clipped signal. but im sure it is that extra power, applied over x amount of time that will destroy the sub...i think i touched on this on the second part of the post you quoted...

and here is one for all you ****tards...hawaii or not, listen to yama. shut your mouth and open your ears...you might just learn something by being open to suggestion rather than closing yourself off to what others are saying.

so OP, sift through this thread and find the suggestions that you can work with...any questions, just ask, and dont be a douche over the fact that you are in need of some edjumacation in car audio...

 

[Mr.B 10+ year member]

agreed... but isn't lakota hitting 151 with a single type R 15 in a truck?

no ****ing way...legal???

 

[SocMunky 10+ year member]

thats florida............................................ And didn't you folks had a cold front, let me see a week or couple weeks ago? said on the weather channel.

Yeah it got down to...60ish? With no humidity. Awesome week, not a cloud in the sky, and it was as blue as sapphires...

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

oh, i guess i was micromanaging the time idea rather than looking at the big picture. and i agree, power is power, regardless of an unclipped or clipped signal. but im sure it is that extra power, applied over x amount of time that will destroy the sub...i think i touched on this on the second part of the post you quoted...
and here is one for all you ****tards...hawaii or not, listen to yama. shut your mouth and open your ears...you might just learn something by being open to suggestion rather than closing yourself off to what others are saying.

so OP, sift through this thread and find the suggestions that you can work with...any questions, just ask, and dont be a douche over the fact that you are in need of some edjumacation in car audio...

Im glad we seem to have come to an understanding here.

 

[sqhertz 5,000+ posts]

Yeah it got down to...60ish? With no humidity. Awesome week, not a cloud in the sky, and it was as blue as sapphires...

got into the 50's here, and we just had some light rain. its still in the 70's. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

its great.

 

[spencer321 10+ year member]

got into the 50's here, and we just had some light rain. its still in the 70's. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gifits great.

i spent yesterday in orlando, overcast it rained for all of about 2 minutes, just long enough to stop the world street nationals, other than that it was beautiful weather

 

[infernois300]

People from hawaii are stupid
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LMAO come down here say that to us.....even better come down here go ewa beach/waianae/waipahu/wahiawa/nalo and say people from hawaii are stupid

 

[infernois300]

said by the guy with 30 post towards the guy who has 10k +
this thread has brought me to the conclusion that people from hawaii are whiny retarded pu$$y's

once again as the post i posted before come down here and say that.