Ok, as someone with just a BIT of turbo experience, I think I'd like to have a say..
as well on the COMPLETE CUSTOM kit you speak of......5 grand would do a BASIC custom job. t-25 turbo no hard pipes, just the basic kit to get going..........for 5 grand i can double output almost.
You have no idea what you are talking about. There are stb TT kits for the LS1 that are in the 5k range. The import world is retardedly confused over turbo kits...For 5k, a competent builder can assemble a turbo kit for any car. Hell, if I knew how to weld, I sure as hell would be running twins. Its not as hard as you think, but since you are stuck in the world of AEM intakes, and Greddy Evo2 exhausts with a front lip, you'll never see it.
seeing as the cobalt ss is...well supercharge....so thats a different competition than turbo cars...
the 3 inch piping on all those cars i put money on is not helping. yes u see an increase....but 2.5 would show more. its not about unrestricting air flow completely, its about freeing up the right amount : ) dual exhaust...fully built no supercharge on that GT by the way.
You are so ****ing retarded its amazing. The cobalt was meant to go against the SRT-4. Thats like saying the mustang isnt the camaro's competition because its 4.6 and the LS1 is 5.7... Or that the Ford GT can't compete with the Enzo because the Enzo is N/A.
And oh, BS on the 590whp GT that is N/A and only uses 2.5 piping. You are so full of shit you wouldn't even know that it is phyisically impossible to flow enough air for a 4.6 to create 590whp N/A.
2.5 would show less. If you can read a compressor map you will see that unless you have an incredibly large turbo, you need the least amount of backpressure possible after the turbo, which would be your exhaust piping.
The turbo itself already creates the backpressure from the car, but you knew this,didnt you? There is a reason why every fast turbo car out there runs 3" or larger exhaust DP's. It is because you want as little restriction as possible on the turbine housing. Most people really don't need to use bigger than 3" until they start reaching 600+whp ranges.
3" on a turbo isn't a bad idea at all, the key is to minimise back pressure, a mustangs a little bit different because its supercharged (im assuming) and using DUAL exhaust
Exactly. The stang still needs as little backpressure as possible, but within reason, as it still functions as an N/A motor to a point, backpressure wise.
dont worry man i know about turbos......stage one is 5 grand for him......becase a kit is not in production. dont u think u can get a little more than 50% power from the motor with 5 grand..i SURE AS HELL hope so. a stock intake on a turbo car is retarded, it WONT do justice. 3 inch piping on anything is fvcking RETARDED. if a 590 horse GT only need 2.5 i doubt a 200 horse ranger would need more, turbo or not. my buddies are running sr20's and rb25det's in their 240's ...i know a little about turbo man. shit my brother has a mazdaspeed protoge that we work on.......i wouldnt give suggestions without having the knowledge...::rollseyes::
You don't know about turbos, you don't know about fast cars, and you need to stop going to civicnation.com
Turbo kits usualy come in stages and will generaly cost less to get the same HP then if you went naturaly aspirated.
A basic kit will come with turbo, FMU or bigger injectors, charge pipes, turbo headers/manifolds, BOV, and a preset wastgate @ usualy 5-6psi. These kits are usualy ment for cars with no internal mods for boost and make 40-50hp.
stages 2+ usualy add in an intercooler, piping, AFPR/AFP, bigger turbo, manual boost controler , stand alone/reburned computer chip.
A turbo back exhaust wont cost as much as you think, all it is basicly is a straight pipe with no mufflers because a turbo is basicly a muffler and quites it alot, 3" or bigger to allow for the extra gasses expelled from the turbo. And you dont need a new intake, a port and polished stock one will be more then enough.
Kinda sorta but not really. Only the import world works in stages... And even then, most don't do that.
Also, turbo kits add more than 40-50hp...get outta the import world man..
