High End speaker setup

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

the zapco competition components are badass plain and simple. with the right power and processing, they are unreal. other than that, dynaudio is the only other thing close.

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

the zapco competition components are badass plain and simple. with the right power and processing, they are unreal. other than that, dynaudio is the only other thing close.

brax doesn't compare? scan speak doesn't compare? seas lotus doesn't compare? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

brax doesn't compare? scan speak doesn't compare? seas lotus doesn't compare? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

when did i say nothing compares. you are a ****ing prick man. did your mother not love you? did daddy touch you? what the **** is your deal?

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

when did i say nothing compares. you are a ****ing prick man. did your mother not love you? did daddy touch you? what the **** is your deal?

you mentioned the zapco's and then you said the only thing that "compares" (to the zapcos) are dynaudio and exluded the others. so in essence you are saying brax, scan speak, seas lotus, morel do not compare //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

keep it on topic please, I dont want a topic that gets locked cuse of admins cuse fighting. Each person is entitled to their own opnions. Please don't comment unncessiarly.

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

you mentioned the zapco's and then you said the only thing that "compares" (to the zapcos) are dynaudio and exluded the others. so in essence you are saying brax, scan speak, seas lotus, morel do not compare //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.

dont put compares in quotes, because i never used the word. i said the only thing close to them is the dynaudios. in no way did i mean that in a those are the two best out. if you mention a mustangs performance, and you said the closest thing to it is the camaro, then that is a reasonable statement. no use saying its the best because that is subjective.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

FYI the Morel and Scan route require enclosures on the midbass for optimal setup.The Scan tweeter would requie an on axis aimed install.

So if your vehicle/system plans are best accomodating a goof off axis tweeter you may want to consider the other routes.

For instance wthout a doubt the Dyn's, Rainbows, DLS would be the superior off axis performers on the top end. Put those tweets anywhere and however you'd like and they wont disappoint, they are the more car friendly speaker. The Lotus tweets need some on axis aiming, their off axis isnt 'great' and the mids are picky on how low and authorative it'll play being a low qt driver. I've heard theem pound in some doors , yet bottom out in others.

However it pans out be wary you need a good attention to system design with any of these choices.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

FYI the Morel and Scan route require enclosures on the midbass for optimal setup.The Scan tweeter would requie an on axis aimed install. So if your vehicle/system plans are best accomodating a goof off axis tweeter you may want to consider the other routes.

For instance wthout a doubt the Dyn's, Rainbows, DLS would be the superior off axis performers on the top end. Put those tweets anywhere and however you'd like and they wont disappoint, they are the more car friendly speaker. The Lotus tweets need some on axis aiming, their off axis isnt 'great' and the mids are picky on how low and authorative it'll play being a low qt driver. I've heard theem pound in some doors , yet bottom out in others.

However it pans out be wary you need a good attention to system design with any of these choices.

I knew about the scan requiring enclosures for the midbass thats why I had originaly wanted Peerless, but the place I am getting it from doesnt offer Peerless that matches with the scanspeak tweet.

All the other information is good, I didn't know much about the off Axis of the SS and Lotus, but I will put that into consideration. Thanks alot for your feedback //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

the zapco competition components are badass plain and simple. with the right power and processing, they are unreal. other than that, dynaudio is the only other thing close.

God it gets annoying //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

I've used the RT25F and I feel the other choices, though I've never heard them, might be better....especially the ring radiator or Esotar. My vote has to be Scan.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

Okay as of right now I am leaning toward the

ScanSpeak

R2904/7000-00 Ring Radiator (1" tweeters, they rated at 160rms, so 4 ohms should be fine from the amp)

18W/8531G000 Revelator (7" midbass, going with 8 ohm because midbass rated at 60rms, and my amp puts 125ish@4 ohms, so should be around 65ish at 8 ohms)

with

Tru Technology

F1 Crossover

I understand the inconviniece of these units not being easy Axis offset like most of the components, but since I am hoping to be competiting in SQ comps I will have to eventually go active with a right setup. So I might as well get it done right the first time //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I am still open to other opinions and would greatly appriciate input. (I plan on adding at least 1 more pair of midbass, sometime later on.)

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

I understand the inconviniece of these units not being easy Axis offset like most of the components, but since I am hoping to be competiting in SQ comps I will have to eventually go active with a right setup. So I might as well get it done right the first time //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Thats the attitude! Good luck, they are exceptional speakers.

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

God it gets annoying //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
I've used the RT25F and I feel the other choices, though I've never heard them, might be better....especially the ring radiator or Esotar. My vote has to be Scan.

then leave *****.

 

[3.5Max6spd 10+ year member]

I forgot that the Esostars are home based. I dunno how good their off axis is but its a large format tweeter as the scans. I hear they are awesome.

 

[thadman 10+ year member]

if you've got the cash, the best 2-way setup imo would be

2-way

W18NX + LCY108 ribbons

3-way

Peerless XLS 8/ Dayton RS225 + Peerless Exclusive 4.5/5.5 + LCY 108

if you can afford 12v behringer equalizers and crossovers you'll be golden!

and if you're just rolling in dough, nothing would be a carputer with Digital Room Correction software...NOTHING

 

[kublkmax 10+ year member]

I have kind of a simple question. What type of car is this set up going in? Who will do your install? The reason I ask is you leaning towards as system that requiers an inclosure of the midbass and axis issues for the tweet. If you or your installer is not really skilled you can spend goobs of money on this stuff that is no doubt top notch, and have it sound like poo!!! I am bias so I will refrain from my reommendation. I have heard most of your choices but not all. Good luck I sure what ever you do will sound sweet. becasue you have picked so very highend stuff.