High current fuses

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

lol wow keep talking it is very amusing noob. so if shorter wire doesnt generate less heat due to RESISTANCE being less on DC why is it that code requires larger wire for a longer run? hmmm guess you forgot about that huh dickwad?

so enlighten us then oh master on the physics of ac current in its most simple form or can you even do that? come on ***** you got google right? find it lolz you are pathetic idiot.

my wife said to tell you to touch any of the common or hot lines in an ac circuit then touch a ground, then talk to her after you get a new pacemaker idiot. either line will nail you to a wall, oh but wait dc doesnt guess you know jack shit better than she does?

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

Yeah. DC isn't lethal too, right?

Here, touch this fullwave rectified 3 phase transformer for me real quick. While holding a pulse cap/PFC bank.

 

[McIntosh 10+ year member]

so tell me then moron why is dc direct on 1 wire and ac is called alternating? it alternates between the hot and common moron, like i said flaunt your google bullshit to someone that isnt a real electrician or go the fvck away noob.and 90% of all welding is DC idiot. which is constant current just like you said ac is not constant it cycles 60 times per second dooooooh!!!

Wow. DC is direct on one wire? I'm selling half my welding leads right now. Hey wait, I can't strike an arc. Maybe I need that other wire. I dunno you tell me son. This AC stuff is so confusing. Its a DC welder, why don't it work? I only need one wire right? It's DC after all. Do I need to strike it 60 times per second? Help me.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

I would say you were doing good until the beating his *** thing.
Commonly the return is grounded anyways, if you're classing that into two wires.

If you're a lineman, cool. I have a set of 14.4kV 25kVA wye distribution transformers I use for high voltage shows to power stuff. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Dangerous stuff.

actually my 74 yr old neighbor was the one that said hed like to whup on him for being such a fraud, that was a few months ago when i printed out some of his posts where he had this same argument in a slightly dif context. he retired 6 yrs ago at 78 as a nuclear engineer at the local power plant whe it went to steam turbine, and i know he knows what he is talking about, he worked at that plant and several other major military installations in his 55 year career.

you can use those transformers to do a large tesla can't you? unfortunately i never made it to be a full registered lineman i was still in my 2nd yr of 3 needed to be a full lineman , but i was a journeyman electrician on a federal grant with the city in an accelerated program to become an engineer on their tab. I hhave Aspergers Syndrome ( a form of Autism ) and I learn everything I do faster than just about anyone, I have never forgotten the lesson you taught me either //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

You forgot to ground the other lead to earth. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif Make sure the contact is good by thoroughly applying salt water with your hands on the welding terminal while holding a water pipe. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Yeah, I used those two distro transformers for a smaller 15kva SRSGTC that I rent to a local (READ: HUGE) haunted house. The cap bank was designed for 20J per shot, at 120BPS. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Resonant freq was some 80kHz. Fun stuff. It's not my first.

Yeah, it's no big deal. xD I think. I'm just aggravated by this guy. I seriously think he should get banned for misinforming the public... If anyone still listens to him.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

Yeah. DC isn't lethal too, right?
Here, touch this fullwave rectified 3 phase transformer for me real quick. While holding a pulse cap/PFC bank.

ouch that would cook lolz.

 

[McIntosh 10+ year member]

lol wow keep talking it is very amusing noob. so if shorter wire doesnt generate less heat due to RESISTANCE being less on DC why is it that code requires larger wire for a longer run? hmmm guess you forgot about that huh dickwad?so enlighten us then oh master on the physics of ac current in its most simple form or can you even do that? come on ***** you got google right? find it lolz you are pathetic idiot.

my wife said to tell you to touch any of the common or hot lines in an ac circuit then touch a ground, then talk to her after you get a new pacemaker idiot. either line will nail you to a wall, oh but wait dc doesnt guess you know jack shit better than she does?

AC vs. DC is of no consequence. The NEC doesn't require larger wire per se, it does address voltage drop. Surely a shorter wire offers less resistance than a longer wire. The length has nothing to do with the wire's ampacity, period. Splain to me how resistance is more (or less) for AC versus DC. An amp is a coulomb/sec as far as I know. Google your *** off, have at it. I did one search to be sure what I was taught was still true. It seems to be. Next you'll be telling me Avogadro's number is a myth. You've never been an electrician. Tell your wife to find a real electrician. The "common" is a center tap and is at ground potential. Of course you both knew that. I'm sure she's had her hands on plenty of commons.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

Alternating Current vs. Direct Current

Batteries, fuel cells, and solar cells all create direct current (DC), which means current always flows in the same direction, originating in the negative terminal and flowing towards the positive terminal. Power plants, on the other hand, deliver alternating current (AC). Alternating current means just that, the direction of the current reverses, or alternates 60 times per second.

The standard power outlet in the U.S is 120-volts 60-cycle AC power.

A primary benefit of AC power is that it can travel long distances without energy loss. Power lines carry very high voltage current and a transformer is used to convert the current to 120 volts just before it is delivered to your home.

that is a direct quote from the same place he said you have to do 8000 hours of OJT with to be a registered wireman lolz the nbe national board of electricians //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

when in reality it is 2000 for a wireman then 2000 more for journey and if you can pass the test you can be a master at 6k but most need 8 or more, a lineman needs to be a wireman with exceptional apptitude with 3000 hrs on the job on top of the original 2000 ojt or a journeyman and pass a simple test, any moron that can read the open book test can pass as a journeyman with 0 hrs experience //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif but they require 6000 minimum ojt or related field , and omfg you coulda been a lighting salesman for 3 yrs and pass the test and guess what? you just became a journeyman electrician with a license lolz, it is an electrical field and counts as ojt in a related field lolz.

 

[McIntosh 10+ year member]

Alternating Current vs. Direct Current Batteries, fuel cells, and solar cells all create direct current (DC), which means current always flows in the same direction, originating in the negative terminal and flowing towards the positive terminal. Power plants, on the other hand, deliver alternating current (AC). Alternating current means just that, the direction of the current reverses, or alternates 60 times per second.

The standard power outlet in the U.S is 120-volts 60-cycle AC power.

A primary benefit of AC power is that it can travel long distances without energy loss. Power lines carry very high voltage current and a transformer is used to convert the current to 120 volts just before it is delivered to your home.

that is a direct quote from the same place he said you have to do 8000 hours of OJT with to be a registered wireman lolz the nbe national board of electricians //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

when in reality it is 2000 for a wireman then 2000 more for journey and if you can pass the test you can be a master at 6k but most need 8 or more, a lineman needs to be a wireman with exceptional apptitude with 3000 hrs on the job on top of the original 2000 ojt or a journeyman and pass a simple test, any moron that can read the open book test can pass as a journeyman with 0 hrs experience //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif but they require 6000 minimum ojt or related field , and omfg you coulda been a lighting salesman for 3 yrs and pass the test and guess what? you just became a journeyman electrician with a license lolz, it is an electrical field and counts as ojt in a related field lolz.

Nice effort, but try the real site: http://ibew.org/

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

AC vs. DC is of no consequence. The NEC doesn't require larger wire per se, it does address voltage drop. Surely a shorter wire offers less resistance than a longer wire. The length has nothing to do with the wire's ampacity, period. Splain to me how resistance is more (or less) for AC versus DC. An amp is a coulomb/sec as far as I know. Google your *** off, have at it. I did one search to be sure what I was taught was still true. It seems to be. Next you'll be telling me Avogadro's number is a myth. You've never been an electrician. Tell your wife to find a real electrician. The "common" is a center tap and is at ground potential. Of course you both knew that. I'm sure she's had her hands on plenty of commons.

i havent said jack shit about your family so keep mine out of it or you will deal with me directly *******. i will destroy you, never ever talk about my wonderful and most forgiving and patient wife unless you have a wish to cease existing in this life.

you can say what you want to me as I am the one talking to you, when you bring indirect people into it you change the game entirely and that I will not take or sit upon ever, when you think you can handle it i can arrange the meet until then speak of her again and i will most definately end your days boy.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

Nice effort, but try the real site: http://ibew.org/

the IBEW is a rip off Union idiot not the federal government get it right dumbass or stfu. any retard can pay dues to be in ibew and not even be an electrician. it doesnt mean you know anything whatsoever.

but trust me, if you ever speak about my wife or kids again you WILL cease existing in this life.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Trolllllllllllll.............

nG

 

[rgplayer 10+ year member]

Let me ask a stupid question, and in no way shape or form am I calling anyone out or saying someone is wrong. I got 1/0 gauge going from main batt to rear kinetik hc600. I got 4awg going from rear batt to amp, rear batt is grounded to chassis and amp is grounded to rear batt. When at full tilt for a good while both pos and neg wires get a little warm at the rear batt, not the 1/0 just the 4. If dc current only uses 1 wire why does both pos and neg get warm and not just the pos? Thanks BTW I realize I am probably trying to pull to much through the 4 gauge.

 

[SicAudio 5,000+ posts]

resistance causes it to get hot, how many amps are you drawing? generally in my experience the ground doesnt get even warm unless there is an issue ( bad ground ect ), the way dc works the voltage starts at the ground and travels to the positive. if they are dif sizes of wire the ground can and usually will get hot due to the resistance, that is why is is important to keep them the same size and also make the ground as short as possible. as well if you have extremely large current draw you should ground the rear battery directly to the front.

if both wires get hot the wire isnt even close to big enough.

 

[MakeshiftAudio 10+ year member]

Sigh.

rgplayer, if no one answers your question, PM me later today and I'll work it out with you. Too tired right now.

McIntosh. Please leave or drop your point. A car audio forum will tolerate your bullshit, but an actual electricity based forum will immediately correct you, and if you do not understand after as many times I've tried to explain it to you, you get booted. Meh. I'm not about to name a certain forum anyways, especially since they are not accepting new members at the moment, unless you contact the admin of the site.

This will be my final comment in regards to this, though I like the "Prove me wrong, because I'm right." attitude, it makes you a target.