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[steele6794 10+ year member]

Hi,

Did alot of searching, kept going around in circles. Need professional help. I have an older 12w3 that I feel isn't giving me the punch in the back I want for the type of music I listen to. Mostly rock, some techno. Want a better sub in every category over the 12w3. single 12. Do want a more SQ oriented sub, not just loud. Most important quality i'm looking for is the kick or punch ect. Want to reuse my alpine 600x1 rms @2 ohm amp. Will be using a 1.25 sealed enclouse but have no problem buying another box if need be. Want to spend around 250 or less. Looked at Id, Idq,IDMAX, 12w6, sa-12, ssa DCON, and dayton HO. Like the DCON's but it says they take 21 days to build which is to long. Pretty much, what is a sub that will rape a 12w3 for the money I want to spend?

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[Falcons 5,000+ posts]

Tldr

 

[steele6794 10+ year member]

sorry. I think I fixed it

 

[mylows10 5,000+ posts]

american bass xfl will do the trick very nicely

 

[mclerico83 5,000+ posts]

right now you can get an audioque sdc2.5 for 118 shipped an amazing deal usually 139 plus shipping

then contact @double 07; to build you a custom box for the sub he has amazing deal going on with free kerf port this month for around 250 you willg et an amazing box to fit exactly your music style and a great sub

 

[Sonic. 10+ year member]

TC Sounds Epic 12" DVC Subwoofer 293-650

 

[steele6794 10+ year member]

I really like that TC sounds epic and that is probably now on the top of my list. The XFL seems it needs alot more power then I can give it and I have to read up more on the audioque, although the price is very nice.

To clarify on rock music a little, I like AC/DC and Type O Negative alot, and other stuff like rancid Type O has some slow stuff where I need the punch and very fast stuff where I need it to keep up, same as when playing rancid ect. Will the 12" TC epic have any problems or play it with ease, or should I be looking more along the 10" lines? Only asking because the 12w3 seems to get jumbled up or muddy when playing certain music. I realize it could, and most likely is, tuning but gotta ask. Thanks for putting up with all these questions. I've really only had experience with infinity perfects and jl w0's and w3's.

 

[double 07 10+ year member]

Thanks Mclerico I will be more than happy to work him up a quote when he decides on a sub.......21 days left on FREE kerf promotion...If he misses out I have another sweet promotion coming January 1, 2013....

 

[pro-rabbit 5,000+ posts]

I really like that TC sounds epic and that is probably now on the top of my list. The XFL seems it needs alot more power then I can give it and I have to read up more on the audioque, although the price is very nice.
To clarify on rock music a little, I like AC/DC and Type O Negative alot, and other stuff like rancid Type O has some slow stuff where I need the punch and very fast stuff where I need it to keep up, same as when playing rancid ect. Will the 12" TC epic have any problems or play it with ease, or should I be looking more along the 10" lines? Only asking because the 12w3 seems to get jumbled up or muddy when playing certain music. I realize it could, and most likely is, tuning but gotta ask. Thanks for putting up with all these questions. I've really only had experience with infinity perfects and jl w0's and w3's.

The enclosure will dictate more of the actual response then the driver will. If designed properly around your goals just about any sub can reproduce the sound you want. The issue might be if if your current sub can reproduce the sound at a loud enough volume for your tastes. You more likely could just get a new enclosure for your JL but a whole new setup would be great as well.

That TC sub is very nice as is the SSA sub.

 

[Sonic. 10+ year member]

For your application I would do the TC epic 10, TC Sounds Epic 10" DVC Subwoofer 293-656

 

[SPLaudio 5,000+ posts]

i would stay away from buying a "new" tc sounds subs sence the company has been closed for over a year now. as said above a new enclosure for ur current sub would be best, ported tuned 32-34hz.

 

[steele6794 10+ year member]

Wouldn't left over stock from before TC went out be ok? Or are you just looking at it from a defective woofer and potential warranty issue?

Buying a box to suite my w3 isn't as much fun as buying a whole new sub haha. Kinda wanted to try out something new, but also, I kind of want to see what a ported box tuned would be capable of.

for $150 I can get a 12w3v3 and a ported box but tuned to 35hz. Used of course, but cheap money. I just don't want to be that kid who doesn't take advice on what a box should be tuned at and go with something not recommended because it was a "good deal". kind of defeats the purpose of asking for help.

And for my last ignorant question of this post...Is it safe to say that either the DCON or the EPIC in a properly tuned box would give me more of the sound I'm looking for over the w3 I'm currently using in a properly tuned ported box?

I really do appreciated the help