Help choosing a wide band speaker

[loudenuff]

Will be running 2 way active front stage soon. Likely getting a ssa evil 6.5. Just purchase a cv v600.4. I'd like to know of any decent sounding wide banners (1-4") that don't break the bank, and can handle at least 60wrms. Go!

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[keep_hope_alive Premium Member]

What's your goal - SQ or output? Location and aiming? Your expected crossover points?

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[loudenuff]

What's your goal - SQ or output? Location and aiming? Your expected crossover points?
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Sq, will be time aligned and as best of on axis as I can manage for my first fiberglass pods. Probably crossing over around 1k.

 

[keep_hope_alive Premium Member]

Hmm, I haven't found a 2" driver I've really liked and I have a few. Lots of nice 3" drivers but that is too big for 1kHz.

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[keep_hope_alive Premium Member]

My Hertz ML28 tweeters can dig down to 1kHz but not at high volumes.

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[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

I got some image dynamics 4 inch ctx coaxials for 40 shipped and paypal fees included, rated 50 rms but will easily handle more than 100 watts if on a crossover at 1khz. Had it high passed at 125hz at -24db and it handled everything a ppi 600.2 could give it.

Will handle 125hz and up easy, especially if in an enclosure so you can even cross at 315hz if you want. The tweeter is pretty smooth and airy. Can be pretty good with eq and clean power. Tweeter positioning is adjustable as well

 

[loudenuff]

Hmm, I haven't found a 2" driver I've really liked and I have a few. Lots of nice 3" drivers but that is too big for 1kHz.
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I'm capable of crossing over anywhere between 1k-12khz for my highs so if u have any recommendations I'm open., I want it setup so my 6.5 is strictly midbass and the wide banger covers the rest of the frequencies. So if there is a speaker that'll do like 800-15k thatd be what I'm looking for

 

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I got some image dynamics 4 inch ctx coaxials for 40 shipped and paypal fees included, rated 50 rms but will easily handle more than 100 watts if on a crossover at 1khz. Had it high passed at 125hz at -24db and it handled everything a ppi 600.2 could give it.
Will handle 125hz and up easy, especially if in an enclosure so you can even cross at 315hz if you want. The tweeter is pretty smooth and airy. Can be pretty good with eq and clean power. Tweeter positioning is adjustable as well

Thanks for the offer but I don't want to run coaxials

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

Typical widebanders cover 300-500hz all the way to 5000-20000hz

There's only 2 that I know of that can do to 20k well. They will need to be fairly on axis.

HAT L3SE 300hz-20k

Audible physics RAM 2 400hz-20k

Both will need the required airspace

Btw a point source coaxial is great. If it can be bi-amped

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

CDT's 2" mid-tweeters do what you want and I've run them active on 145Wx2. I tell everyone to expect laid back treble. Is that what you want?

 

[loudenuff]

Typical widebanders cover 300-500hz all the way to 5000-20000hzThere's only 2 that I know of that can do to 20k well. They will need to be fairly on axis.

HAT L3SE 300hz-20k

Audible physics RAM 2 400hz-20k

Both will need the required airspace

Btw a point source coaxial is great. If it can be bi-amped

The only coaxials I've really looked at were the mirus by hybrid audio. Thanks for th recommendations though, I'm looking into em now

 

[loudenuff]

CDT's 2" mid-tweeters do what you want and I've run them active on 145Wx2. I tell everyone to expect laid back treble. Is that what you want?

Not necessarily laid back treble, I just want it to sound as accurate as I can possibly get it to

 

[ciaonzo 5,000+ posts]

I was just discussing this with another member so I'll throw out my 2 cents. The Tang Band titanium 4" and bamboo 4" both sound great, and really deliver once DSP is applied. By far the best wideband driver I've ever heard is the 2" & 4.5" Jordan variety. Incredible revealing drivers. They're in the camp of bending wave drivers that behave in a way that causes the apparent diameter of the driver to decrease as frequency increases, which allows for incredible off axis performance. They're spendy but well worth it. A couple other flat cone, bending wave drivers can be found on Parts Express for next to no money and those also sound very good. I forget the model/part number at the moment. HiWave or something like that.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Not necessarily laid back treble, I just want it to sound as accurate as I can possibly get it to

You dont want accurate, you want more detail than flat response. You want a nice sound quality curve if you actually enjoy music. Flat and accurate is boring and mainly if you compete in RTA in mecca. You want highly detailed, and vibrant sound thats smooth and buttery. Gonna take some processing to do so.

to be honest man, you just need some good tweeters that play down to 2.5k and the evils will take care up to 2.5khz just fine without any beaming issues and still pump out a lot of midbass(with power and install/deadening) You are trying to force a small little driver to do way too much where it should have been in an 3 way active setup instead.

BTW those SSA evils, get at least 200 watts per speaker to shine Or else they will sound dull and lifeless. Everyone thats used them have the same consensus. They really do sound good, just need A LOT of clean power. Your CV 600.4 will only be enough for the evils alone bridged.

 

[trumpet 5,000+ posts]

Not necessarily laid back treble, I just want it to sound as accurate as I can possibly get it to

Call it accurate or detailed, getting the full range of frequencies isn't enough in my experience. I recommend using a small tweeter for brilliance and air.

 

[LosIsATool 5,000+ posts]

The only coaxials I've really looked at were the mirus by hybrid audio. Thanks for th recommendations though, I'm looking into em now

One of the top cars at finals last year had a 10in sub in each kick and a set of 4in illusion coaxials in the pillars.