has anyone ever patented anything? had an idea to copyright?

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i have had an idea for something (yes its car audio related) for about 3 years now. i have not seen anything like it in the market as of yet.

im not going to propagate my idea anywhere until i eaither find somone else made it or i patent it lol.

but has anyone ever tried to get something patented? did anything come of it? what do you have to do to patent an idea, and where did you go to do it?

i just started doing some reasearch, and one of the best resources is people. so fill me in on your expierence or research, and give me a heads up about what im getting into //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

thanks for any info anyone can provide. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fro.gif.c695f1f814b01c4ad99fe7f8cccadd29.gif

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[bdawson72 5,000+ posts]

I was wondering the exact same thing

 

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apparently, im working on a utility patent. wich is an imporvment of an existing thing(s).

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/index.html#patent

1) Utility patents may be granted to anyone who invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, article of manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof;

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/utility/utility.htm#intro

A nonprovisional utility patent application must include a specification, including a claim or claims; drawings, when necessary; an oath or declaration; and the prescribed filing, search, and examination fees. A complete nonprovisional utility patent application should contain the elements listed below, arranged in the order shown.
* Utility Patent Application Transmittal Form or Transmittal Letter

* Fee Transmittal Form and Appropriate Fees

* Application Data Sheet (see 37 CFR § 1.76)

* Specification (with at least one claim)

* Drawings (when necessary)

* Executed Oath or Declaration

* Nucleotide and/or Amino Acid Sequence Listing (when necessary)

so i just have to collect the paperwork and mail it to the USPTO after i do research to make sure nobody has made the thing im trying to get the idea from?

 

[delvryboy 5,000+ posts]

For under $500 you could probably hire a patent paralegal to research it and file the paper work.

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

andy //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I have experience in that //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[req 5,000+ posts]

um.

care to elaborate eggy?

a patent paralegal huh? and they only get the cost of hiring, not a percentage of possible revinue because the law states that the origional inventor bla bla bla?

here is how to put one together. good info here. lots of nitpicking imo. but meh. somone will have to read it.

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/utility/utility.htm#app

heres what forms i need to fill out in order to send in for a utility i think..

* Utility Patent Application Transmittal Form - Form PTO/SB/05\
 
* Fee Transmittal Form and Appropriate Fees - Form PTO/SB/17
 
* Oath Or Declaration - Forms PTO/SB/01, PTO/SB/01A, PTO/SB/02, and PTO/SB/02LR
and here is where you can download them.

http://www.uspto.gov/web/forms/index.html#startforms

otherwise, its all descriptive about the idea(s) in question, how they should be layed out in the package to be mailed, and how far in depth you can go with it.

it seems like tons of mumbo jumbo on what everything should look like, more than shit you need to fill out, describe, draw, ect.

anyone have expierence with any of this? im kinda just diving in head first.

 

[Captain_Ahab 5,000+ posts]

lets go man. do it. ill buy it

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

its very expensive //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif trust me, first you have to get a patent or a patent pending status than a copyright and a trademark if need be. A patent pending status is the cheapest way to go its valid for if I remember 1-2 years. You will need a patent attorney to make sure your application is correct. Usually they recommend doing a detailed patent search which also costs money, but should be included with the patent attorneys fee.

 

[StealthKill 10+ year member]

I've always wondered this as well.

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

also it depends on what the patent attorneys fees are some like it in full and others take half plus some revinue. Its a very long process, myself chose the patent pending because it was the cheapest way of doing things than I had a marketing team take my invention to trade shows all over the world for 1 year if they sold my invention to a manufacturer the marketing company would take a certain percentage of revenue for so many years, I had lots of interests from manufacturers but nothing ever came of it. I figured if I couldnt sell it to manufactures within the 1-2 year period it wouldnt sell at all, again it was also the cheapest way of doing things, but again it wasnt all that cheap, i could pm you the costs ive spent if you really wanted to know.

 

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yea anything you could do would be helpfull, and if you wanna PM me your idea id be curious to know what you tried just to get an idea of what you did you know?

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[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

pmd the costs ill pm you my invention/concept

 

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coo coo //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

anyone else?

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

later on today i can take a snap shot of my legal patent pending status document //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif which is expired now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/frown.gif.a3531fa0534503350665a1e957861287.gif

 

[Beat_Dominator 5,000+ posts]

Yeah I heard it would cost around $3,000 to get a full patent.