Good cheaper options for sound mat

[brianksubs]

I bought vevor 50 mil on eBay and it worked well. Paid 75 dollars for 52 square feet. I have no complaints.

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

I've used many on the Reonix test list and can concure to a degree. The siless, 120m wasn't what was used in the test, and it is thick and effective but doesn't seem to stick as well. Overall, the NVX 90mil has been consistently a good product, applies well and sticks very well. IMHO, best bang for the buck currently offered.

I've used this for inside the door on the outer door panel:

Amazon.com

I've used this for the rest of the car:

Amazon.com

When considering all factors, this consistently comes out on top.

 

[fa5chups]

I've used many on the Reonix test list and can concure to a degree. The siless, 120m wasn't what was used in the test, and it is thick and effective but doesn't seem to stick as well. Overall, the NVX 90mil has been consistently a good product, applies well and sticks very well. IMHO, best bang for the buck currently offered.

I've used this for inside the door on the outer door panel:

Amazon.com

I've used this for the rest of the car:

Amazon.com

When considering all factors, this consistently comes out on top.

sorry I'm confused on the difference between them? sound deadening the car next week

 

[Old_Slapper]

Check out this stuff. I have this in my son's truck and the thicker stuff in mine. There's no difference in sound cancelling.

Amazon.com

 

[Blackout67]

sorry I'm confused on the difference between them? sound deadening the car next week

First link is a 3 layer with a closed cell foam layer. It acts as a squishy barrier between panels or other moving objects so they aren't slapping against eachother and make annoying noises

Second link is just butyl CLD, you'd put it on long flat panels to reduce how much they vibrate and lower the frequency at which they do vibrate.

Some companies have a tiles with an extra layer that is mass loaded vinyl. It blocks the transmission of sounds wherever you put it.

 

[fa5chups]

First link is a 3 layer with a closed cell foam layer. It acts as a squishy barrier between panels or other moving objects so they aren't slapping against eachother and make annoying noises

Second link is just butyl CLD, you'd put it on long flat panels to reduce how much they vibrate and lower the frequency at which they do vibrate.

Some companies have a tiles with an extra layer that is mass loaded vinyl. It blocks the transmission of sounds wherever you put it.

i see so CLD on both inner and outer doorskin and then the CCF on the door card? thats would make more sence to me but doxquzme said he put it on the outer doorpanel

 

[Blackout67]

i see so CLD on both inner and outer doorskin and then the CCF on the door card? thats would make more sence to me but doxquzme said he put it on the outer doorpanel

Well your speakers are going to cause the most vibrations on the surface it's mounted in. I'm assuming he means the metal part when he says "outer" door panel where the speaker is mounted from the factory. Putting a tile or two on the door card is beneficial but not as necessary if we are talking about CLD by itself. As for the CCF, it just needs to be between the objects that are hitting each other, in this case you could mount it to one of the other (door card or metal panel) and it will have the same effect.

I actually have a set of this cheap CCF and it works great. But the triple layer stuff is definitely more convenient and it's thinner so you can fit it into tighter gaps

Edit: forgot to mention the one I put in there is also a insulator. So if you put it across your the inside roof of your car it'll keep it cooler when it's hot out and warmer when it's cold

 

[fa5chups]

Well your speakers are going to cause the most vibrations on the surface it's mounted in. I'm assuming he means the metal part when he says "outer" door panel where the speaker is mounted from the factory. Putting a tile or two on the door card is beneficial but not as necessary if we are talking about CLD by itself. As for the CCF, it just needs to be between the objects that are hitting each other, in this case you could mount it to one of the other (door card or metal panel) and it will have the same effect.

I actually have a set of this cheap CCF and it works great. But the triple layer stuff is definitely more convenient and it's thinner so you can fit it into tighter gaps

i gotcha I gotcha so metal panels throw cld, and then som ccf on the door cards for any moving objects
Im gonna use som resonix rope to line little stuff to

 

[Blackout67]

oh wait its a CLD WITH a layer of foam?

Exactly

i gotcha I gotcha so metal panels throw cld, and then som ccf on the door cards for any moving objects
Im gonna use som resonix rope to line little stuff to

Id say get a pack of that 3 layer stuff and use that on the door panels but also pick up a pack of CCF separately since it's cheap to hit areas you don't want to waste the CLD on. Basically you really want to focus on hitting the long flat portions with CLD first and foremost. Those are the parts that resonate the most and you can use what's left over to hit the less important parts.
As for the CCF, play some loud music with lots of bass and listen out for where panels or other parts are slapping each other and that's where you wanna hit specifically with the CCF. In regards to putting the CCF on the card or the metal panel, it won't matter as long as it's sandwiched between the two and sticks good it'll work the same either way

 

[Blackout67]

Check out this stuff. I have this in my son's truck and the thicker stuff in mine. There's no difference in sound cancelling.

Amazon.com

CLD won't cancel out sound it'll just reduce panel vibration. To eliminate sound entering the vehicle you'll need to use MLV over top of CCF to provide a limp sound barrier or something to absorb and dissipate the sound like Second Skins' melamine foam pads or the fiber mats from Resonix

 

[Doxquzme Premium Member]

i see so CLD on both inner and outer doorskin and then the CCF on the door card? thats would make more sence to me but doxquzme said he put it on the outer doorpanel

The first link is a cld/foam/foil product that takes care of vibration and reflected sound off the backs of the drivers toa degree and in the door cavity itself. It would go inside the door on the outer door panel.

The other link is straight up CLD and would go on the door panel facing the inside of the cabin, and under the door panel cover.

 

[Blackout67]

I'm liking this NVX deadener. Rolled on nice and is much thicker than the batch of Amazon deadener that I have a few scraps left over from my truck. I'm loading up the door card cause the speakers I'm using are too big to be factory mounted so I've picked up some Recoil speaker pods that I going to mount around the grille hole after I cut it out . Was a pain in the *** scraping off the 30 year old vapor shield glue. Couldn't find an exact blade so I ended up using a long flat rotary hammer chisel to scrape it off

I'll make a new thread with pics when I've got the door pods mounted