First system set up.. a couple questions

[daboyfrumdabx 10+ year member]

I don't think the box is too small, it meets the spec for my sub.
wouldn't "sealing" it with wood have flaws. leaked air, plus the size will be too big because for sealed i think its supposed to be 0.65 cu ft for this sub.

how do you go upon setting gain then. i put gain to 0. then i put HU volume up until it was really loud but NOT distorted. then i increased gain until it was loud but NOT distorted. I don't see any other way. Or should i roll back the gain a bit to be on the safe side. I'm thinking of just buying a sealed box then. what confuses me is why would a company make a ported box at 44 hz tuning then? surely, nobody is going to use a single 10" for SPL purposes..

Unknowledgeable buyers want their sub to be loud. Period. That's why they tuned prefabs so high. Who said 10"s can't be used for SPL? Sadly mistaken my friend. Also, manufacturer specs (especially those of the mainstream brands) are typically very far from ideal for the woofer in question. It's harder to damage a sub in a smaller box (typically), so manufacturers recommend smaller enclosures to cut down on warranty claims. You can seal that box just fine if you put a little thought into how to prevent air leaks. Think about it for a few minutes and then tell me you can't think of a single way.

 

[godisanatheist 10+ year member]

Unknowledgeable buyers want their sub to be loud. Period. That's why they tuned prefabs so high. Who said 10"s can't be used for SPL? Sadly mistaken my friend. Also, manufacturer specs (especially those of the mainstream brands) are typically very far from ideal for the woofer in question. It's harder to damage a sub in a smaller box (typically), so manufacturers recommend smaller enclosures to cut down on warranty claims. You can seal that box just fine if you put a little thought into how to prevent air leaks. Think about it for a few minutes and then tell me you can't think of a single way.

Would the port still being on the inside of the box have a negative effect?

 

[godisanatheist 10+ year member]

Ok i confused about a couple things.. my ported box is tuned at 44hz, so does that mean it ONLY plays notes at that freq, or does it mean its unable to play anything below it? is there a way (besides changing the box) I can make songs with bass notes

I changed my lpf from 85hz, to 120hz, sounds better. so does that mean the sub only play frequencies from 44hz to 120hz?

 

[taylorpro 10+ year member]

ur box peaks at 44hz. it will play lower than that, but id be surprised if there was noticeable output below 35 or so. Also, it should play up to 80-90 fine before it fades off. I like my lpf at 85 personally (kenwood deck). alsoo, it seems as if you're complicating your settings. i would leave the bass setting on the HU flat, or at 0. it shouldnt do any damage to your door speakers as long as you dont go past 0, since it would then be boosting that signal. also, try to keep the SW level at 0 or below, as it too will boost signal and could lead to distortion. as to your gains, 3/4 should be fine. those amps are pretty good considering age. and honestly, if ANY amp sends dirty power with gains at 3/4 its beyond a terd. i say put the bass at 0 on the HU, and put gains at 3/4 on amp. also, keep bass boost off on the amp. I do however think a lower tuned box will help meet your goals.

 

[Vossy 10+ year member]

Gain is NOT a volume knob, it's an INPUT SENSITIVTY knob, there's NO universal setting.

It all depends on the voltage out from your deck

 

[daboyfrumdabx 10+ year member]

Would the port still being on the inside of the box have a negative effect?

No. If you seal it properly, it will behave as a sealed box.

Ok i confused about a couple things.. my ported box is tuned at 44hz, so does that mean it ONLY plays notes at that freq, or does it mean its unable to play anything below it? is there a way (besides changing the box) I can make songs with bass notes
I changed my lpf from 85hz, to 120hz, sounds better. so does that mean the sub only play frequencies from 44hz to 120hz?

It will play below 44hz, it just wont sound very good doing so. You need to seal it or get a new box if you want decent sounding "sound". Set your LPF back to 85. There's no way you're not getting vocals through your sub at 120hz.

ur box peaks at 44hz. it will play lower than that, but id be surprised if there was noticeable output below 35 or so. Also, it should play up to 80-90 fine before it fades off. I like my lpf at 85 personally (kenwood deck). alsoo, it seems as if you're complicating your settings. i would leave the bass setting on the HU flat, or at 0. it shouldnt do any damage to your door speakers as long as you dont go past 0, since it would then be boosting that signal. also, try to keep the SW level at 0 or below, as it too will boost signal and could lead to distortion. as to your gains, 3/4 should be fine. those amps are pretty good considering age. and honestly, if ANY amp sends dirty power with gains at 3/4 its beyond a terd. i say put the bass at 0 on the HU, and put gains at 3/4 on amp. also, keep bass boost off on the amp. I do however think a lower tuned box will help meet your goals.

STFU, GTFO! OP, do not listen to this^.

Gain is NOT a volume knob, it's an INPUT SENSITIVTY knob, there's NO universal setting.It all depends on the voltage out from your deck

This.

 

[godisanatheist 10+ year member]

What do you disagree with from taylorpro?

"alsoo, it seems as if you're complicating your settings. i would leave the bass setting on the HU flat, or at 0. it shouldnt do any damage to your door speakers as long as you dont go past 0, since it would then be boosting that signal. also, try to keep the SW level at 0 or below, as it too will boost signal and could lead to distortion."

because i waas gonna try this

 

[daboyfrumdabx 10+ year member]

What do you disagree with from taylorpro?
"alsoo, it seems as if you're complicating your settings. i would leave the bass setting on the HU flat, or at 0. it shouldnt do any damage to your door speakers as long as you dont go past 0, since it would then be boosting that signal. also, try to keep the SW level at 0 or below, as it too will boost signal and could lead to distortion."

because i waas gonna try this

This part:

ur box peaks at 44hz. it will play lower than that, but id be surprised if there was noticeable output below 35 or so. Also, it should play up to 80-90 fine before it fades off. I like my lpf at 85 personally (kenwood deck). alsoo, it seems as if you're complicating your settings. i would leave the bass setting on the HU flat, or at 0. it shouldnt do any damage to your door speakers as long as you dont go past 0, since it would then be boosting that signal. also, try to keep the SW level at 0 or below, as it too will boost signal and could lead to distortion. as to your gains, 3/4 should be fine. those amps are pretty good considering age. and honestly, if ANY amp sends dirty power with gains at 3/4 its beyond a terd. i say put the bass at 0 on the HU, and put gains at 3/4 on amp. also, keep bass boost off on the amp. I do however think a lower tuned box will help meet your goals.

Just because it's tuned to 44 doesn't mean it peaks at 44hz. Taking a random guess that gains at 3/4 is fine is amateur at best. There are plenty of amps that will send dirty power by 3/4 gain. It depends on it's input source. The rest is fine. Basically I think he still has lots to learn before giving advice.

 

[taylorpro 10+ year member]

This part:

Just because it's tuned to 44 doesn't mean it peaks at 44hz. Taking a random guess that gains at 3/4 is fine is amateur at best. There are plenty of amps that will send dirty power by 3/4 gain. It depends on it's input source. The rest is fine. Basically I think he still has lots to learn before giving advice.

ur right. it was a hasty statement to say it would peak at 44. your tuning frequency just affects the frequency curve and changes what your peak is/ how flat the response curve is. and why exactly was my statement so wrong? he is obviously using a newer model deck as it has a low pass option. assuming im correct, it would likely have at least a 2V pre-out. assuming that, 3/4 gain should not be an issue. ive scoped my vehicle (also a HU sending a 2V signal) and with gains on my amp (soundsteam dtr series) at 3/4 and it was clean as can be. those older PG were good amps and i doubt it would be an issue. OP you dont have to listen to me. it was just my opinion on what would be acceptable. sorry my knowledge is so limited. ill leave now.

 

[godisanatheist 10+ year member]

My HU does have 2V pre-out.. couldve just asked. and guys im sure the amp isnt sending dirty signals lol.. i can hear the point when im increasing gain where it does so i dont set it that high

 

[taylorpro 10+ year member]

My HU does have 2V pre-out.. couldve just asked. and guys im sure the amp isnt sending dirty signals lol.. i can hear the point when im increasing gain where it does so i dont set it that high

well turn ur gain down to like half, and set ur HU settings to where i recommended if you like. that will make the sub output greater. if you're pleased with it, you can keep the gain down to keep the signal cleaner. bottom line, its your decision. sorry for getting heated in ur thread.lol

 

[daboyfrumdabx 10+ year member]

well turn ur gain down to like half, and set ur HU settings to where i recommended if you like. that will make the sub output greater. if you're pleased with it, you can keep the gain down to keep the signal cleaner. bottom line, its your decision. sorry for getting heated in ur thread.lol

Nope, not if you'd like. This is what should be done. Sorry taylorpro. Got so caught up in the stuff I pointed out from your post that I originally didn't notice that you had the proper info regarding head unit setting in there as well.

 

[taylorpro 10+ year member]

Nope, not if you'd like. This is what should be done. Sorry taylorpro. Got so caught up in the stuff I pointed out from your post that I originally didn't notice that you had the proper info regarding head unit setting in there as well.

appreciate it

 

[godisanatheist 10+ year member]

Ok I set the head unit like you said, and experimented with the gain again and honestly, 3/4 is NOT a problem. The sound definitely sounds more full because with the previous setting i realized that i wasn't playing any freqencies (85hz-100hz). only one problem, on the occasional song the door speaker starts rattling a lot from the bass.

this'll do for now, eventually i want to change the box to a nice sealed one and dynamat by entire trunk. the plastic interior in the matrix is a btihc.

 

[taylorpro 10+ year member]

only one problem, on the occasional song the door speaker starts rattling a lot from the bass..

glad it helped. but in that case, just turn the volume down, or turn the bass down real quick for the song. just to be safe. are these stock speakers btw?