First ever amplifier

Aeris

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Ive noticed that most car speakers advertise by max watts, with rms after, should i buy an amplifier based on rms? or max? ive never had anything to do with amplifiers before and im rather new to car audio as a whole

 

Popwarhomie

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Ignore max completely and sometimes ignore RMS as well because alot low end companies LIE!

We can tell you what amps will put out their true RMS ratings though :)

 

Jeffdachef

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just tell us a budget and we'll let you know whats the best out there for the money. As long as your subwoofer's ohm loads match with the amp it doesnt matter how much stronger the amp is compared to the sub's RMS wattage rating. you can control how much wattage the amp outputs via gain settings.

 

Aeris

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Jun 3, 2019
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Ive already got a sub with a built in amp, no need for that yet, looking to buy a 4 channel amp for the door speakers actually, have 4 6.5s that each rate about 80 watts RMS and my head unit is aftermarket, but isnt enough to power the speakers, only putting out i believe 50 watts (i am open to speaker suggestions as well) my budget would be about 200-300 maximum on the amp

 
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Jeffdachef

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Ive already got a sub with a built in amp, no need for that yet, looking to buy a 4 channel amp for the door speakers actually, have 4 6.5s that each rate about 80 watts RMS and my head unit is aftermarket, but isnt enough to power the speakers, only putting out i believe 50 watts (i am open to speaker suggestions as well) my budget would be about 200-300 maximum on the amp
that pioneer n2audio recommended would be a good first amp for you. 

again never look at max watts you arent getting anywhere near 50 watts.  Aftermarket head units are10-15 watts at best even if they rate it 22 watts rms. 

Max power, peak power, just plain power numbers, throw ALL THAT TO THE TRASH.   only thing that matters is RMS numbers but garbage companies can lie on those numbers as well.   

What you want to do is look up amplifier dyno videos on youtube, its hooked up to a machine that shows if its making rated power or not.

 
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Aeris

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Jun 3, 2019
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that pioneer n2audio recommended would be a good first amp for you. 

again never look at max watts you arent getting anywhere near 50 watts.  Aftermarket head units are10-15 watts at best even if they rate it 22 watts rms. 

Max power, peak power, just plain power numbers, throw ALL THAT TO THE TRASH.   only thing that matters is RMS numbers but garbage companies can lie on those numbers as well.   

What you want to do is look up amplifier dyno videos on youtube, its hooked up to a machine that shows if its making rated power or not.
Im not finding any thing on an n2audio amp

 

Aeris

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Jun 3, 2019
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what gear do you already have?  what vehicle?
I have a Quinn Accoustics QE693 6x9 3-way (30W power, 90W max) on front doorsan Alpine S-S65C component 6-1/2 2-way speaker set (80W rms, 240W peak) on back doorsand a Kenwood Excelon KFC-X2C 2-3/4th inch speaker set (50W rms, 120W peak) in the dash
on a 2007 Nissan Titan XE crew cab (2wd) without any of the audio packages
as well as the "Dual Electronics TBX10A 10 inch Shallow High Performance Powered Enclosed Subwoofer with Built-In Amplifier & 300 Watts of Peak Power" from Walmart
Im gonna be replacing front door as well as dash after the amp, so im looking based off the Alpines

 
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nauc

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https://www.crutchfield.com/S-HEWpsao2cdv/p_13699401/JL-Audio-JX400-4D.html?XVINQ=GLX&awkw=41426615929&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=68375339305&awdv=c&awug=9053226&gclid=Cj0KEQjw8-LnBRCyxtfMl-Cbu48BEiQA6eUMGoXOeJAgjDoILXjbuosD8-uR1IWrxts-u0A8AwnQuiQaAlrF8P8HAQ

id bridge it (160x2) and run it to your Alpines, put em up front.  ditch the rest, except sub.  for subs i like Fi and Fosgate amps.  youll want to upgrade your bass someday too,  trust ! ;)

tons of good info for noobs... https://jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/categories/200265750-Car-Audio-Support

heres the tones for gain setting, how to in link above... https://www.realmofexcursion.com/downloads.htm

 
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Boomin_tahoe

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I have a Quinn Accoustics QE693 6x9 3-way (30W power, 90W max) on front doorsan Alpine S-S65C component 6-1/2 2-way speaker set (80W rms, 240W peak) on back doorsand a Kenwood Excelon KFC-X2C 2-3/4th inch speaker set (50W rms, 120W peak) in the dash
on a 2007 Nissan Titan XE crew cab (2wd) without any of the audio packages
as well as the "Dual Electronics TBX10A 10 inch Shallow High Performance Powered Enclosed Subwoofer with Built-In Amplifier & 300 Watts of Peak Power" from Walmart
Im gonna be replacing front door as well as dash after the amp, so im looking based off the Alpines
Hate to say it but 1/2 of what you got is garbage stuff....not to mention shouldn't look for max/peak  watts

 

audioholic

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Im not familiar with the Kenwood h/u the OP has, but it is no longer safe to assume h/u amplifiers only put out 15-20 watts. Some h/u's come with a MOSFET amplifier these days and actually can put out close to 50 watts per channel, and I consider a great option for people just dabbling in car audio and dont want a dedicated external mid/highs amplifier.

 

n2audio

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Im not familiar with the Kenwood h/u the OP has, but it is no longer safe to assume h/u amplifiers only put out 15-20 watts. Some h/u's come with a MOSFET amplifier these days and actually can put out close to 50 watts per channel, and I consider a great option for people just dabbling in car audio and dont want a dedicated external mid/highs amplifier.
There's one mfg I'm aware of with that feature -- Sony - a couple of their $200-250 models.  Are there others?

It's a 15w HU unless stated otherwise.

 

audioholic

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There's one mfg I'm aware of with that feature -- Sony - a couple of their $200-250 models.  Are there others?

It's a 15w HU unless stated otherwise.
Well Ive been out of the car audio game for a while so brand specific questions Im not very good at, but it was Pioneer who first came out with MOSFET h/u's. Kenwood and a couple others had followed suit by the time I stopped paying attention.