F*ck me in the RIAAss!

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

ask the mods for faulkton's IP then tell the RIAA he stole stuff to get your settlement lowered.
extortion FTW!

i buy my music so i have nothing to fear //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

The RIAA doesn't bargain.

Absolutely patently false. They have bargained many many times, you just never hear about them, but from friends experiences and also other forums I am on I do know the will bargain.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

Absolutely patently false. They have bargained many many times, you just never hear about them, but from friends experiences and also other forums I am on I do know the will bargain.

Wrong. The RIAA is like chuck norris, they don't bargain they consume.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

see now that $12 you saved by stealing music on the interwebs will cost your momma $4k.
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They laugh at us for using amazon. Who's laughing now?

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

your new, so we will let it slide. He does this all the time, and nobody can stop him.
WhoSayWho : but looking back at a post somebody made, they said that it would be their strategy to delay and slow down the court process long enough for the person to just give up.

I mean, If you could find factual evidence that they were trying to slow down the court system so you would eventually be FORCED to pay the settlement, couldn't you get them back for that?

It is unethical for a lawyer to purposefully delay litigation for such purposes so you may be able to have him disciplined -- but that is a very long shot. (What is your proof going to be when he followed the court's sechedule?)

There are procedural safeguards for litigants -- such as protective orders, moving for a trial setting etc. When you are acting within the system the other party is going to be extremely hard pressed to prove that you were purposefully delaying the action. If there are some types of abuses the court can impose sanctions.

Now, you cannot bring a lawsuit for the purpose of ruining someone. That is an abuse of process. However, it is hard to prove what someone's motivation is unless you have a situation such as where someone says "I don't care if I win. It will be worth it to make them take off work to go to court and make them pay an attorney."

The best approaches are like the ones Faulkton posted -- there is no good faith basis for the lawsuit. But even where the case is dismissed early it is hard to get sanctions.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

Wrong. The RIAA is like chuck norris, they don't bargain they consume.

Unfortunately, Johnny Cochran is dead.

We have no more good lawyers anymore.

I am curious what happens if you don't pay.

Say I saw 18 and had zero income. I guess I would try to negotiate a plan to spread the $4k out for a dozen or so years. Or you could negotatiate jailtime/community service. They can't make you pay money you don't have. They can only go after you parents if they paid for the ISP.

I pay rent to my parents. I can say the ISP is included in the rent. That would prevent them from going after them. I can divert income to keep them from going after me. What you need to do is make it not worth it to them. Drag it out with continueances, letters, petitions to the judge, try and defend yourself (assuming you are somewhat competant), etc. These lawyers aren't going to squeeze blood from a turnip.

 

[Flipx99 5,000+ posts]

I don't see how it costs $4k. Aren't any of your friends lawyers? If not, you chose poorly in selection of friends.

 

[T9X 10+ year member]

These lawyers aren't going to squeeze blood from a turnip.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif @ my ma said the same thing when I told her they want $4k.

 

[luvinthebass 5,000+ posts]

**** Sony

 

[WhoSayWho? 5,000+ posts]

**** Sony

X2. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy any of their xplods.

 

[T9X 10+ year member]

X2. It will be a cold day in hell before I buy any of their xplods.

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[konechiwa 10+ year member]

WHo are the artists under sony BMG

 

[sundownz Pro Seller]

I buy CDs from BMG Music club... last time I bought CDs from them I paid about 35 dollars for seven CDs, shipped to my door. To me, time is money, it would take me more time to get decent quality MP3s of those seven CDs than it is worth. Just a suggestion for those of you looking to avoid potential legal trouble.

And yes, they will send you shit if you don't respond to the featured selection. You absolutely can decline it and will not get anything you didn't order. I've been a member for years... I've forgotten twice to turn it down and got the CD, but I ended up earning several free CDs for accepting the selection and just sold the CD I didn't want on e-bay!

Anyhow... best luck to the OP with your legal troubles.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

YES!!!!!!!!! Take it from someone who got jacked by them also.....yes at first I talked big sh*t when I first got served, I wasn't going to pay them a dang dime because even though I wasn't the one that did it it was still my computer. I met with my lawyers about it, one of which whom used to work for HRO told me of their tactics of dragging things out in court so long that most people tend to run out of money trying to fight them, it would be best to settle....so I did. I settled for 5k. What I find strange in your case though is that they asked for $4k and you only had about 8 songs on your computer. I had a couple of thousand songs in mine and settle for $5k and now I have to pay these pricks $250.00 a month.

Just a little FYI, on whatever program you are using disable your sharing function, that's how they catch ya.......//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif :crying: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

Daaaaaaaaammmmmnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!! Sorry to hear that man. I can say when I used to use programs like Napster, Scour, Imesh, Bearshare....etc. that I never used to share because it always knocked down my bandwidth and I never had much people wanted in my shared folder to begin with. Now I'm glad I always did it that way.

Funny thing is, they're sooooooo hard up to catch you guys for downloading low quality, compressed songs and meanwhile they let what me and my friends do all the time. There's me and a couple of my friends who all like pretty much the same music. We all own over 500 CDs a piece and the libraries continue to grow. But it's very rare that we all buy a NEW CD. One of us will and then make 2 copies for the other 2. I'm pretty sure this is legal and CD is much higher quality. So I guess I don't understand why they don't go after stopping people like me and my friends instead of MP3 downloaders.

 

[faulkton 5,000+ posts]

I wonder if you just ignore it and they are awarded a default judgment, how long it would take them to start garnishing your (or your moms) wages?

I suppose they would also be entitled to legal fees as well, so the total would just skyrocket.