ever think about *******?

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Try to frown in a ferrari //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

****, you're good at trying to put words in someone elses mouth.
I think we've all been through those situations. Ive had to turn my back and walk away disappointed from over a dozen people in my life, and im not talking about women (the # would be a lot higher //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif ). I mean people that were close friends that were looked at almost like a brother. Many of which I havnt seen in years. Nor do I really care to. You can only learn from past experiences and add those experience to your judgment for future use. All you can do is move on. Im a lot more careful about things now, and dont really put up with much anymore. Especially with women.

No, nothing can make that go away. If something like that happened to you, then I truly am sorry. However, something like that shouldnt be used as the defining moment of your life. Yes that would be horrible, but you cant let it hold you down forever & say you'd never be happy again. At that point, it would just be reduced to an excuse to not live life.

The people who have let me down in life are my own parents //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Of course loosing a child would be an excuse not live, but you make it seem that if someone has possessions that they shouldn't feel depression to the point they contemplate their own death.

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

The people who have let me down in life are my own parents //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

Well, that indeed does ****. However, im sure you're more then capable of moving on though and not using whatever they did to define you.

Of course loosing a child would be an excuse not live, but you make it seem that if someone has possessions that they shouldn't feel depression to the point they contemplate their own death.

Nah, they just make things more fun but arnt what define happiness. I was saying that with a sense of humor, jokingly. That is the reason there was a " //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif " at the end of it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

Thinking about ending yourself isnt a solution to anything, so no I dont see why anyone would contemplate their own death because it wont solve anything.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Well, that indeed does ****. However, im sure you're more then capable of moving on though and not using whatever they did to define you.


Nah, they just make things more fun but arnt what define happiness. I was saying that with a sense of humor, jokingly. That is the reason there was a " //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif " at the end of it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

Thinking about ending yourself isnt a solution to anything, so no I dont see why anyone would contemplate their own death because it wont solve anything.

If you are dead you have no worries, so yes it does solve your problems.

Also this isn't about me. I'm talking on behalf of someone I know //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

If you are dead you have no worries, so yes it does solve your problems.

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif I hope you dont ever get a job at the ******* hot-line. Seriously though, thats not thinking logically. If you're dead, you have nothing, you're gone, period. If you were still around, and all the problems disappeared, THEN it would be a solution. The big factor in it is someone dying.

Lets see if I can explain this simply... if you're dead, you cant NOT have worries. What I mean by that is, in order to be free of worries you have to be alive to be free of them. You cant experience that relief if you're dead.

Also this isn't about me. I'm talking on behalf of someone I know //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

So ive read, someone that lives 2 hrs away, ect...

 

[krisfnbz 10+ year member]

I agree....Ive been through my fair share of shit but some of the things that I see people complain about on the daily is ridiculous...I lost my dad at 14 which sucked but life goes on..

I have only thought about ******* in a sort of amused way... just for my own curiosity... besides... life isn't that hard... people just seem to have problems dealing with everyday life... maybe you should start going to church or something...
Ever seen fight club? "The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide." ... quit fretting over insignificant shit and get on with life... wife leaves you? insignificant there are billions of women on the planet... broke as all hell? eat mac-n-cheese and go to school... car breaks down? learn to fix it...

It can all be handled, it's just about how you let it effect you... I've been through some serious shit and got through it fine because I have absolute control over my emotions and my life's situation...

Hmm... as for a hard situation that I could see someone being depressed if they lost both parents before they where 18 (my wife's best friend had this happen...) or how about having your family ***** and murdered while you are out at the bar... now those are issues that might be hard to deal with....

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

Hey, life is hard...I think you guys need to **** it up and stop having little net pity parties for yourselves or go buy a gun.

End of thread.

 

[krisfnbz 10+ year member]

pretty funny:fro:

Hey, life is hard...I think you guys need to **** it up and stop having little net pity parties for yourselves or go buy a gun.
End of thread.

 

[ThomasG 5,000+ posts]

****, you're good at trying to put words in someone elses mouth.
No, happiness doesnt boil down to material possessions. They help, but its not all it boils down to. As I said, the definition of happiness is different from person to person. What makes you happy might not be what makes someone else happy, that goes both ways. Im sure you understand that.

I think we've all been through those situations. Ive had to turn my back and walk away disappointed from over a dozen people in my life, and im not talking about women (the # would be a lot higher //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif ). I mean people that were close friends that were looked at almost like a brother. Many of which I havnt seen in years. Nor do I really care to. You can only learn from past experiences and add those experience to your judgment for future use. All you can do is move on. Im a lot more careful about things now, and dont really put up with much anymore. Especially with women.

No, nothing can make that go away. If something like that happened to you, then I truly am sorry. However, something like that shouldnt be used as the defining moment of your life. Yes that would be horrible, but you cant let it hold you down forever & say you'd never be happy again. At that point, it would just be reduced to an excuse to not live life.

I enjoy reading your posts

 

[Homossaywhat? 10+ year member]

if you dont understand why someone considers *******, then you obviously have never been there. and it may not even be possible for you to ever understand it either. people who suffer from depression or any other psychological disease are in a different mindset. their brains do not function like a normal human beings brain does. their reasoning and descision making skills are skewed. You can kind of think of a depressed person like a mild psychotic. just in the sense that theyve lost touch with reality. they dont think that theyll be hurting theyre family and friends if they commit *******. or if they do, they think the pain will be much less than the pain their family and friends will endure if they remain alive. so mr. type A personality over here can call ******* selfish all he wants, and it is from the outside perspective, but you have to understand thats not how the suicidal person is thinking. furthermore, people are all born with different brains. not everybody deals with pressure the same ways, or as effectivly as others. there are people out there who can go to school full time work full time and still have time for a family and friends and deal with it no problem. then there are others who cant even handle a part time job. its a combination of genetics and learned behaviors. effective coping can be learned, but not everyone is born knowing how to do so. i laugh at ignorant people who scoff at depression and ******* before theyve even made an attempt to understand it by educating themselves in the field of psychology.

 

[4runnercrazy 10+ year member]

I Love Life //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[HitManSE 10+ year member]

if you dont understand why someone considers *******, then you obviously have never been there. and it may not even be possible for you to ever understand it either.people who suffer from depression or any other psychological disease are in a different mindset.

Depression... yeah, been there done that. You dont think logically, not even close to it. I nearly kicked my own *** when I snapped out of it, feels like you're in a prison in yourself & you think there isnt any way out. Of course thats how you think when you're in that state. If anything it made me harder & things dont get to me so easily anymore.

their brains do not function like a normal human beings brain does. their reasoning and descision making skills are skewed. You can kind of think of a depressed person like a mild psychotic. just in the sense that theyve lost touch with reality. they dont think that theyll be hurting theyre family and friends if they commit *******. or if they do, they think the pain will be much less than the pain their family and friends will endure if they remain alive.

... brain doesnt function like normal, yea check.

... reasoning and decision making not normal, yea yeah check.

... mildly psycho, lost touch with reality, hmm.. yeah check.

I cant disagree with any of that paragraph, however thinking about ending it and seriously considering it are way different. I dont think id have ever given it much thought.

so mr. type A personality over here can call ******* selfish all he wants, and it is from the outside perspective, but you have to understand thats not how the suicidal person is thinking.

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Im speaking in my current condition. How I think, and how I feel about it AFTER. I know how it feels during and you're right, but that way of thinking isnt logical nor correct.

furthermore, people are all born with different brains. not everybody deals with pressure the same ways, or as effectivly as others.

I didnt think this way before, but after everything was said and done if hardened me to this point and its how I think now. The brain is far more complex then people think and experiences through life can change tend to change they way you think about and look at things. Perhaps thats just my opinion, doesnt mean im wrong //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

there are people out there who can go to school full time work full time and still have time for a family and friends and deal with it no problem. then there are others who cant even handle a part time job. its a combination of genetics and learned behaviors.

Overloading your "to-do" list will catch up with a person, regardless of who they are. Cant argue with what you've said though.

effective coping can be learned, but not everyone is born knowing how to do so.

I guess so, not a psychiatrist though.

i laugh at ignorant people who scoff at depression and ******* before theyve even made an attempt to understand it by educating themselves in the field of psychology.

Never claimed to be an expert but, doesnt experiencing it count? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I enjoy reading your posts

Glad I entertain you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Eugenics 5,000+ posts]

I am man enough to admit that i have thought about some of you committing *******.

 

[Homossaywhat? 10+ year member]

*double post*

 

[Homossaywhat? 10+ year member]

Depression... yeah, been there done that. You dont think logically, not even close to it. I nearly kicked my own *** when I snapped out of it, feels like you're in a prison in yourself & you think there isnt any way out. Of course thats how you think when you're in that state. If anything it made me harder & things dont get to me so easily anymore.


... brain doesnt function like normal, yea check.

... reasoning and decision making not normal, yea yeah check.

... mildly psycho, lost touch with reality, hmm.. yeah check.

I cant disagree with any of that paragraph, however thinking about ending it and seriously considering it are way different. I dont think id have ever given it much thought.

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Im speaking in my current condition. How I think, and how I feel about it AFTER. I know how it feels during and you're right, but that way of thinking isnt logical nor correct.

I didnt think this way before, but after everything was said and done if hardened me to this point and its how I think now. The brain is far more complex then people think and experiences through life can change tend to change they way you think about and look at things. Perhaps thats just my opinion, doesnt mean im wrong //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Overloading your "to-do" list will catch up with a person, regardless of who they are. Cant argue with what you've said though.

I guess so, not a psychiatrist though.

Never claimed to be an expert but, doesnt experiencing it count? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

Glad I entertain you //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I am not pointing fingers at anyone. I am merely trying to explain the situation to people that do not understand. and i know from experience in the field that the vast majority of the population do not understand it at all. there also are many other people who claim they do understand it and claim they have been through it all but will still ridicule the suicidal person (namely type A personalities). i dont know you and i dont know what youve been through by any means. so who am i to say who you are or what your thinking? I just want to make it clear to anyone who is thinking the wrong way about the subject matter, because this IS a very serious situation. Its not a game, people can die if youre not careful.

btw, you couldnt be more correct about the brain being far more complex than we even know

 

[jdawg 5,000+ posts]

I tried to once. I had the nail gun in my hand and couldnt get it to load, one of the kinds that uses 22 shells and shoots nails into concrete, so I took like 40 asperin and passed out, woke up and called my mom. Took me to the hospital. Stayed there a week. I guess that experience was an eye opener. I always have had anxiety disorder and depression. Was on Effexor for a year, all the sudden I decided to stop taking it. I have been fine and am now on no meds. I just kinda changed my outlook on life and enjoy different things now. Alcoholism didnt help any of it along either.