jaxteller
CarAudio.com Newbie
Man. Weird things. Recently went to regular audio shop to talk new sub. Have 2 12 dub 7s. Voice coil blew after 7 years. Side note, while i love JL subwoofer sound, all amps, speakers, or anything else pretty much *****. I digress. So rather than send JL sub in for repair, I wanted to go with 2 arc audio 12s from the black series. Heard it's a pretty good woofer. I have arc amps, and an arc ps8 DSP, so familiar with Arc. Side note. PS8 is IMO best DSP on market. I know......... Audio control, but at the time, they didn't have a dedicated controller, like ps8 does, and no DSP could handle running an optical out like ps8. Sorry, again I digress. Go back to shop 2 weeks later, and it's seized for taxes. WOW!!!! Glad I didn't get on the schedule or make a deposit. 2 guys that own/install are pretty good people, and was concerned. They've been go to for around 7 years. IMHO, the one dude is probably the most knowledgeable I've ever met. Closed. Seized. Gone. Huge bummer. So I go to a tintworld, because the carried Arc. No one else seems to. I tried to order blacks myself, but website is out of stock. Went to the tintworld, cause I thought being a dealer, they could get them. And the guy who sold me the pair of blacks, said no problem. Got them ordered. So maybe he knew this before, maybe not. I think the place is super greasy and knew, but ARC BLACK SERIES is DISCONTINUED. I found that out by calling Arc. But I had ordered blacks. Tint world dude said on way! Arc said that's not possible. So subs arrive at tint world. I'm like really???! cool. I told dude I'd put in box myself, but he wanted me to let them install. Said drop off car, can do in a couple hours. Immediately my spidey sense went off. If it takes you a couple hours to drop 2 subs in a box already wired, you probably shouldn't be an installer. I said no, I'll pick them up. When I go to pick up, they're NOT arc blacks. I immediately knew because they guy handed me 1 very light box. I said, both in 1 box? He said yah. I was like........... WoW!!! Lightest subs I've ever felt. I set down on floor before leaving, opened box to find 2 arc SW subs in there. While the SW is basically an ARC BLACK, at the same price, it's still a SHALLOW WOOFER FOR TRUCKS!!! I one hundred percent believe the freaking dude knew that, and hoped to install them, and think I'd never know. Another disturbance. Most audio shops around the KC area are getting more greasy, more sketch. SMH. But IMO, car audio as people know it will be pretty much done in the next 20 to 30 years. Autonomous cars can't run, or won't run giant subs. LOL. Are that's what's coming. Car audio, like an old V8, will become luxury. Sure sure, self driving cars will have sound, so audio install will happen, but the sound will only be what an electric battery can run. Lol. Anyway, just the ramblings of an old bass head. Oh, yah. I said screw it and paid the money for JL to refurb. Rather have a refurb JL than something some greasy audio shop is trying to push.