Dammit to hell........

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

Did you not read this

Yes, I did read that. You have a really bad habit of bringing up irrelevant information.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

Did you not read this

You're not getting it bro. Here in TX they can search your glovebox whether it's locked or not if they suspect you to have something illegal in it. If your car smells like weed, they can search your locked glove box to see if you have weed there whether it's locked or not.

If they heard you just shot somebody with an AK-47, they CANNOT search your glovebox because an AK-47 could not be there. If they find that AK elsewhere and arrest you, they now have the right to search your glovebox.

Going by your logic, if they search your glovebox "wrongfully" and find weed, all they have to say is your car smelled like weed. Who is the court going to believe? The officer or the person who got caught with weed?

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

Going by your logic, if they search your glovebox "wrongfully" and find weed, all they have to say is your car smelled like weed. Who is the court going to believe? The officer or the person who got caught with weed?

Ok, you're talking "what ifs". What if the cop was a half robot half penguin smoking a blunt of meth?

Yeah, in the case that the cop is a crooked liar, then yes, you're probably gonna lose.

Most cases though, it's a rook who doesn't know what he's doing wrongfully searching yo **** like what happened with my locked glovebox.

I was simply stating in this thread that if Louisana_CRX's car was searched without ANY probable cause (he didnt state any probable cause) thats not right. Chances are he had nothing to hide and just wanted to get out of there ASAP. But I got money and time, so I will make that cop *** stand there while he "tries" to make up reasons to search me.

Sometimes cops really WANNA search your ****, and if you let them, they can. But 99% of the time, they are not allowed.

EXAMPLE

Cop pulls you over for speeding. Asks if he can search your car, you say no. He pulls you out anyway, searches it, finds a Uzi and ounce of coke in the glove compartment.

You go to jail, go to court, and it gets thrown out because he had no reason to search it.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

Ok, you're talking "what ifs". What if the cop was a half robot half penguin smoking a blunt of meth?
Yeah, in the case that the cop is a crooked liar, then yes, you're probably gonna lose.

Most cases though, it's a rook who doesn't know what he's doing wrongfully searching yo **** like what happened with my locked glovebox.

I was simply stating in this thread that if Louisana_CRX's car was searched without ANY probable cause (he didnt state any probable cause) thats not right. Chances are he had nothing to hide and just wanted to get out of there ASAP. But I got money and time, so I will make that cop *** stand there and fake him getting a warrant or drug dog.

Sometimes cops really WANNA search your ****, and if you let them, they can. But 99% of the time, they are not allowed.

I'm saying with probable cause they can search your glovebox if it's locked, only if what they are looking for would be inside, they do not need a warrant.

LA CRX didn't state any probable cause, but the police don't have to tell you either if they have probable cause anyway. Like if they ran your name, and saw you with a certain charge. They can just tell you to step out of the vehicle.

Cops here work 10 hour days, 4 days a week, so they have a lot of time to sit there and wait, and drug dogs only take a few minutes to get there.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

EXAMPLE
Cop pulls you over for speeding. Asks if he can search your car, you say no. He pulls you out anyway, searches it, finds a Uzi and ounce of coke in the glove compartment.

You go to jail, go to court, and it gets thrown out because he had no reason to search it.

He can ask you to search it, but if he has probable cause to begin with, then he can tell you to get out. They don't have to tell you if they have probable cause or not.

But in that case, with no probable cause, you could fight that in court since that is wrongfully searching you since you did not consent.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

But in that case, with no probable cause, you could fight that in court since that is wrongfully searching you since you did not consent.

Finally someone understands what the **** im trying to say.

This has happened to me twice. I've never been convicted with a single crime in my life however I have been "charged" a couple times

Here's another real life example...

A friend of a friend's house got raided (he was selling heavy ****). Had multiple surveillance cameras and a offsite DVR

He was facing 15+ years.. Lawyer looked over the camera footage. Police executed the warrant 5 minutes before the warrant was stated for (6:55 vs 7:00)

Bam, he's free. Seen him not long ago

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

I checked the Minnesota Constitution. Its wording is exactly the same as the Fourth Amendment, and there hasn't been a single case in the Minnesota Supreme Court that challenges the fact that a policeman can search your vehicle in its entirety, if he has probable cause.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

I checked the Minnesota Constitution. Its wording is exactly the same as the Fourth Amendment, and there hasn't been a single case in the Minnesota Supreme Court that challenges the fact that a policeman can search your vehicle in its entirety, if he has probable cause.

You are RETARD.

if he has probable cause.

I ******* KNOW YOU IDIOT. IM SAYING IF THERE IS NO PROBABLE CAUSE

How ******* old are you? 10?

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

And you really went through my posts to find out what state I'm from, even though you're babbling pointless bullshit that doesn't make sense

I never once stated "IF HE HAS PROBABLE CAUSE HE CANT SEARCH YOU"

Im stating "If he has NO probable cause, he CANNOT search you, and if he does, it's a wrongful seizure if they do actually find anything"

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

Finally someone understands what the **** im trying to say.

You're not understanding anything I'm saying. I've been saying from the VERY START that with probable cause, the policeman can search your car. I already told you that I don't care about your anecdotes.

By the way, you've been saying different things the entire time. You first said that a policeman can't search a locked compartment without a warrant, which I argued with. If a policeman has probable cause, he can search a locked compartment. Your state's Constitution reflects this.

Then you started talking about how you were wrongfully searched, so that somehow means probable cause doesn't exist.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

Finally someone understands what the **** im trying to say.
This has happened to me twice. I've never been convicted with a single crime in my life however I have been "charged" a couple times

Here's another real life example...

A friend of a friend's house got raided (he was selling heavy ****). Had multiple surveillance cameras and a offsite DVR

He was facing 15+ years.. Lawyer looked over the camera footage. Police executed the warrant 5 minutes before the warrant was stated for (6:55 vs 7:00)

Bam, he's free. Seen him not long ago

But like I said, just because they ask you to search your vehicle does not mean they don't already have probable cause to begin with. So even if you say no, they can still search it.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

Finally someone understands what the **** im trying to say.
This has happened to me twice. I've never been convicted with a single crime in my life however I have been "charged" a couple times

Here's another real life example...

A friend of a friend's house got raided (he was selling heavy ****). Had multiple surveillance cameras and a offsite DVR

He was facing 15+ years.. Lawyer looked over the camera footage. Police executed the warrant 5 minutes before the warrant was stated for (6:55 vs 7:00)

Bam, he's free. Seen him not long ago

But like I said, just because they ask you to search your vehicle does not mean they don't already have probable cause to begin with. So even if you say no, they can still search it.

 

[MisterDeadeye 10+ year member]

You are RETARD.


I ******* KNOW YOU IDIOT. IM SAYING IF THERE IS NO PROBABLE CAUSE

How ******* old are you? 10?

Bro, from the very beginning I was talking about probable cause. You need to learn how to read.

 

[IonRL205 10+ year member]

And you really went through my posts to find out what state I'm from, even though you're babbling pointless bullshit that doesn't make sense
I never once stated "IF HE HAS PROBABLE CAUSE HE CANT SEARCH YOU"

Im stating "If he has NO probable cause, he CANNOT search you, and if he does, it's a wrongful seizure if they do actually find anything"

Umm no? This whole time you've been saying they can't search your glovebox if it's locked unless they have a warrant even if you do have probable cause.

 

[SourDeez 10+ year member]

Bro, from the very beginning I was talking about probable cause. You need to learn how to read.

Dude. I am saying, if Lousianas car was searched with no probable cause and they found something illegal in his package, he would get away with no charges. And you started on some bullshit like NAH NAH THEY CAN SEARCH IT NO MATTERZ WHATS

 

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Umm no? This whole time you've been saying they can't search your glovebox if it's locked unless they have a warrant even if you do have probable cause.

Okay, ******* quote me on that??

Even though its true. They CANNOT search your locked compartment in a routine search without any probably cause.