Cutting stage of lifting?

whats your weight and body fat? this has a lot to do with what i will recommend. also do you know what body type you have? mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorph? i know its lame but heres a good way to check http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm.

mainly are you looking to be skinnier with more cardiovascular endurance or have more muscle?

this is an importance question. notice how long distance runners/bikers are ALL super skinny with little muscle? now look at short distance sprinters. all have MUCH more muscle mass then the long distance guys. thats because 2 different types of muscle fibers are used for each group.

ill elaborate more on what you may want to know after you answer a few of the questions...

 
I am cutting right now. Cardio 3 days a week, lifting 3 days a week. One day off to let my body rest.
Your must burn more calories than you consume ~500 or so. Clean diet is crucial for a good and effective cut. No need for supplements or pills. Get a good multivitamin, some fish oil and drink plenty of water. What is your current weight and height?
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Woah, thanks for all the replies guys! I'll be honest now and say this isn't actually for me //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/blush.gif.99bc659ee2012b7d826165e26fb5eebe.gif my girl wants to cut some weight fast and loves to use adipex to do so. I was hoping tapout would end up on here as this is his realm of expertise. Didn't really want to sort through all the flaming to get answers but I just got laid, and back from the gym so F-it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

I'm about 12% body fat right now 5'10" 194lbs and 28.2 BMI , yeah I could lose some weight myself but I'm just starting my distance training so this is no big deal. Her job is at home and she doesn't really go out but to the gym with me so she wants to burn some serious calories while doing her job.

 
Dude, that is a low body fat percentage!

If it was me, here is what I would do:

1. clean diet-NO PILLS

2. Barbell Deadlifts

3. Barbell Squats

4. Alternate with cardio.

I guarrantee that in 2 months you will get down to 10% or less body fat.

 
whats your weight and body fat? this has a lot to do with what i will recommend. also do you know what body type you have? mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorph? i know its lame but heres a good way to check http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/becker3.htm.
mainly are you looking to be skinnier with more cardiovascular endurance or have more muscle?

this is an importance question. notice how long distance runners/bikers are ALL super skinny with little muscle? now look at short distance sprinters. all have MUCH more muscle mass then the long distance guys. thats because 2 different types of muscle fibers are used for each group.

ill elaborate more on what you may want to know after you answer a few of the questions...
I think this guy is a trainer so he can help.

You'll need to keep all macronutrients in your diet (protein/carbs/fats). Carbs taken post workout are a must for glycogen and recouperation. Try cutting your carbs out on non training days and take in a healthy amount (60g) post workout with a protein shake in addition to a meal about an hour after your post workout shake consisting of lean protein and rice.

I get on the eliptical machines and get my heart rate up to about 130bpm and stay there for 45 minutes when dieting down. I don't do any more than 45 minutes either. Shoot for losing 1-2lbs per week and nothing more. If you are dropping more than this (after the first week or two) then up your calories (protein or fat). Losing weight this quickly will cause loose skin.

Drink a protein/dextrose shake immediately after training and do your cardio on an empty stomach.

ECA stacks, ALA with carb meals and L-carnitine are a few products I swear by while dieting.

If she likes the adipex then by all means let her use it. I myself have done Clen and Cytomel(T3). Then clen would be OK but i dont recommend messing with your thyroid unless you are hardcore(and done tons of research).

As far as working out I would rec. light weight/high reps and possibly a commercial workout like HITT.

 
You'll need to keep all macronutrients in your diet (protein/carbs/fats). Carbs taken post workout are a must for glycogen and recouperation. Try cutting your carbs out on non training days and take in a healthy amount (60g) post workout with a protein shake in addition to a meal about an hour after your post workout shake consisting of lean protein and rice.

I get on the eliptical machines and get my heart rate up to about 130bpm and stay there for 45 minutes when dieting down. I don't do any more than 45 minutes either. Shoot for losing 1-2lbs per week and nothing more. If you are dropping more than this (after the first week or two) then up your calories (protein or fat). Losing weight this quickly will cause loose skin.

Drink a protein/dextrose shake immediately after training and do your cardio on an empty stomach.

ECA stacks, ALA with carb meals and L-carnitine are a few products I swear by while dieting.

If she likes the adipex then by all means let her use it. I myself have done Clen and Cytomel(T3). Then clen would be OK but i dont recommend messing with your thyroid unless you are hardcore(and done tons of research).

As far as working out I would rec. light weight/high reps and possibly a commercial workout like HITT.
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I think this guy is a trainer so he can help.
You'll need to keep all macronutrients in your diet (protein/carbs/fats). Carbs taken post workout are a must for glycogen and recouperation. Try cutting your carbs out on non training days and take in a healthy amount (60g) post workout with a protein shake in addition to a meal about an hour after your post workout shake consisting of lean protein and rice.

I get on the eliptical machines and get my heart rate up to about 130bpm and stay there for 45 minutes when dieting down. I don't do any more than 45 minutes either. Shoot for losing 1-2lbs per week and nothing more. If you are dropping more than this (after the first week or two) then up your calories (protein or fat). Losing weight this quickly will cause loose skin.

Drink a protein/dextrose shake immediately after training and do your cardio on an empty stomach.

ECA stacks, ALA with carb meals and L-carnitine are a few products I swear by while dieting.

If she likes the adipex then by all means let her use it. I myself have done Clen and Cytomel(T3). Then clen would be OK but i dont recommend messing with your thyroid unless you are hardcore(and done tons of research).

As far as working out I would rec. light weight/high reps and possibly a commercial workout like HITT.
Thanks for the input. I will add some of that to my routine. As far as her, what are the sides to T3? I dont' want anything that will mess up her thyroid. Also, anyone have links? Cause I can't seem to find squat anymore. I just re-read what you put. Your saying T3 messes with the tyroid (sorry I'm slow this evening *chuckle*). Besides Adipex, what other options are out there that are that potent?

Thanks again.

 
Thanks for the input. I will add some of that to my routine. As far as her, what are the sides to T3? I dont' want anything that will mess up her thyroid. Also, anyone have links? Cause I can't seem to find squat anymore. I just re-read what you put. Your saying T3 messes with the tyroid (sorry I'm slow this evening *chuckle*). Besides Adipex, what other options are out there that are that potent?
Thanks again.
http://www.davedraper.com/article-124-spring-interval-training.html

Cytomel is not an anabolic/androgenic steroid but a thyroid hor*mone. As a substance it contains synthetically manufactured liothyronine sodium which resembles the natural thyroid hormone tricodide-thyronine (L-T3). The thyroid of a healthy person usually produces two hormones, the better known L-thyroxine (L-T4) and the aforementioned L-trilodine~thyronine (L-T3). Since Cytomel is the synthetic equivalent of the latter hormone, it causes the same processes in the body as if the thyroid were to produce more of the hormone. It is interesting to note that L-T3 is clearly the stronger and more effective of these two hormones. This makes Cytomel more effective than the commercially available L-T4 compounds such as L-thyroxine or Synthroid. The manufacturer of the German L-T3 compound, Hoechst AG, ascribes the following characteristics to its Thybon drug, making it clear that L-T3 is superior to L-T4: "The synthetically manufactured thyroid hormone, L-trilodine-thyronine (L-T3), included in Thybon, in experimental and clinical testing has proven to be 4-5 times more biologically active and to take effect more quickly than L-thyroxine (L-T4)." In school medicine Cytomel is used to treat thyroid insufficiency (hypothyroidism). Among other secondary symptoms are obesity, metabolic disorders, and fatigue. Bodybuilders take advantage of these charcteristics and stimulate their metabolism by taking Cytomel, which causes a faster conver*sion of carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Bodybuilders, of course, are especially interested in an increased lipolysis, which means in*creased fat burning. Competing bodybuilders, in particular, use Cytomel during the weeks before a championship since it helps to maintain an extremely low fat content, without necessitating a hunger diet. Athletes who use low dosages of Cytomel report that by the simultaneous intake of steroids, the steroids become more effective, most likely as the result of the faster conversion of protein.
Until recently, Cytomel was used by bodybuilders and female bodybuilders, in particular-on a daily basis over several months to remain "hard" and in good shape all year round. Believe us when we tell you that to a great extent several bodybuilders who are pictured in "muscle magazines" and display a hard and de*fined look in photos, eat fast food and iron this out by taking Cytomel. The over stimulated thyroid burns calories like a blast furnace. Nowadays, instead of Cytomel, athletes use Clenbuterol which is becoming more and more popular. Those who combine these two compounds will burn an enormous amount of fat. The next time you read that a certain pro bodybuilder approach*ing a championship competition is still eating 4000 calories a day, you will know why. Cytomel is also popular among female bodybuilders. Since women generally have slower metabolisms than men, it is extremely difficult for them to obtain the right form for a competition given today's standards. A drastic reduc*tion of food and calories below the 1000 calorie/day mark can often be avoided by taking Cytomel. Women, no doubt, are more prone to side effects than men but usually get along well with 50 mcg/day. A short-term intake of Cytomel in a reasonable dosage is certainly "healthier" than an extreme hunger diet.

As for the dosage, one should be very careful since Cytomel is a very strong and highly effective thyroid hormone. It is extremely impor*tant that one begins with a low dosage, increasing it slowly and evenly over the course of several days. Most athletes begin by tak*ing one 25 mcg tablet per day and increasing this dosage every three to four days by one additional tablet. A dose higher than 100 mcg/ day is not necessary and not advisable. It is not recommended that the daily dose be taken all at once but broken down into three smaller individual doses so that they become more effective. It is also impor*tant that Cytomel not be taken for more than six weeks. At least two months of abstinence from the drug needs to follow. Those who take high dosages of Cytomel over a long period of time are at risk of developing a chronic thyroid insufficiency. As a consequence, the athlete might be forced to take thyroid medication for the rest of his life. It is also important that the dosage is reduced slowly and evenly by taking fewer tablets and not be ended abruptly. Those who plan to take Cytomel should first consult a physician in order to be sure that no thyroid hyper function exists.

Possible side effects such as medication are described in the package insert by the German pharmaceutical group Hoechst AG for their compound Thybon: "Exceeding the individual limits of compatibil*ity for liothyronine or taking an overdose, especially, if the dose is increased too quickly at the beginning of the treatment, can cause the following clinical symptoms for a thyroid hyperfunction): heart palpitation, trembling, irregular heartbeat, heart oppression, agita*tion, shortness of breath, excretion of sugar through the urine, ex*cessive perspiration, diarrhea, weight loss, psychic disorders, etc., as well as symptoms of hypersensitivity." Our experience is that most symptoms consist of trembling of hands, nausea, headaches, high perspiration, and increased heartbeat. These negative side effects can often be eliminated by temporarily reducing the daily dosage. Cau*tion, however is advised when taking Cytomel since, especially in the beginning, the effect can be quick and sometimes drastic. Ath*letes do not use the injectable version of L-T3, this is normally used as "emergency therapy for thyrotoxic coma." Those who use Cytomel over several weeks will experience a decrease in muscle mass. This can be avoided or delayed by simultaneously taking steroids. For the most part, since Cytomel also metabolizes protein, the athlete must eat a diet rich in protein.
 
Nice. I'll look into that for her. Sounds like her kinda pill.

Thanks!

**CANCEL THE QUESTION ON T3 and T4** I did some research //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 
Dont mess with clen. It plays with your thyroid to speed your metabolism but you can actually slow it down alot by crashing if you dont know what youre doing and thus getting really fat. Just what Ive heard.

Morning cardio before food matched with clean, well split protein rich diet with some complex carbs and lots of fiber is the tried and true method. Try to keep the sodium down but thats hard unless you like spending time in the kitchen.

 
Have used ephedrine before with no serious side effects. As with everything in life, moderation is key. And don't be taking the stuff if you have existing health conditions.
yeah.. everything... i just had a moderate amount of opium today with a hint of coca plant extract

 
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