Cutting stage of lifting?

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

I'm about to go into my cutting phase and wondered where you guys are picking up cutting supplements. I'm not looking for steroids (i've already seen the debate on that, this isn't that thread) but rather phentremene (adipex) or something along those lines (clenbuterol could work but I've never had luck with it).

Anyone got a link? PM please //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Obviously I've done the google route, but it is all adipex pretenders and way too much (over 250 for 90 pills, I have paid 100 in the past)

Thanks.

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[konechiwa 10+ year member]

water and lots of cardio with sweats and a sweatshirt on?

no more sweets?

 

[Pl8er 5,000+ posts]

water and lots of cardio with sweats and a sweatshirt on?
no more sweets?

LOL. Aye, I think I have that part down. I've ran full marathons, half marathons, plenty of long distance races. I'm eating 6 meals a day (evenly distanced out including one at 3am). and I also do at least 4 40 minute cardio days a week mixed in with my lifting schedule.

Also, I eat almost no candy, 0 fast food and very low fats. My only weakness is eggs (1 dozen on saturday, half dozen on sunday)

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

LOL. Aye, I think I have that part down. I've ran full marathons, half marathons, plenty of long distance races. I'm eating 6 meals a day (evenly distanced out including one at 3am). and I also do at least 4 40 minute cardio days a week mixed in with my lifting schedule.
Also, I eat almost no candy, 0 fast food and very low fats. My only weakness is eggs (1 dozen on saturday, half dozen on sunday)

and your not losing weight? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

i think i heard you want less carbs and more protein when you cut.

 

[NJTStang11 10+ year member]

I've had friends use clen would recommend avoiding it.

#1-Clen especially is actually quite dangerous.

#2-For what it costs, it's not worth the difference.

After trying alot of different things throughout different cut cycles, one combo works by the far best (of course keeping staples too like protein, multis, fish oil, etc)

-Ephedrine

-Caffeine

-Green Tea Extract

Oh and my tip of the day, in case you didn't know, Ephedrine can be found in many OTC asthma/Bronchial medicines. Take a look into Bronkaid.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

I'm about to go into my cutting phase and wondered where you guys are picking up cutting supplements. I'm not looking for steroids (i've already seen the debate on that, this isn't that thread) but rather phentremene (adipex) or something along those lines (clenbuterol could work but I've never had luck with it).
Anyone got a link? PM please //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif Obviously I've done the google route, but it is all adipex pretenders and way too much (over 250 for 90 pills, I have paid 100 in the past)

Thanks.

Never heard of phentremene but may have to do some searching. I'm in the bulking stage because if I cut right now people would probably think I have wasting disease //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

I do have a beer gut and moobs though, so gonna have to cut sometime when I feel I have enough size to warrant losing some of it for some of the fat to go. Will have to look some of this up.

 

[konechiwa 10+ year member]

some side effects of ephedrine

* Cardiovascular: tachycardia, cardiac arrhythmias, Angina pectoris, vasoconstriction with hypertension

* Dermatological: flushing, sweating, acne vulgaris

* Gastrointestinal: nausea, appetite loss

* Genitourinary: increased urine output due to increased blood flow (difficulty urinating is not uncommon, as alpha-agonists such as ephedrine constrict the internal urethral sphincter, mimicking the effects of sympathetic nervous system stimulation)

* Nervous system:restlessness, confusion, insomnia, mild euphoria, mania/hallucinations (rare except in previously existing psychiatric conditions), delusions, formication (may be possible, but lacks documented evidence) paranoia, hostility, panic, agitation

* Respiratory: dyspnea, pulmonary edema

* Miscellaneous: dizziness, headache, tremor, hyperglycemic reactions

Overdose can lead to death, although the approved dose is not likely to cause severe reactions when used as directed.

Ephedrine can also lead to damage of the brain receptors over a period of high usage; this is because of its constant action on the neurochemicals. It also leads to high increase in blood pressure which over time can lead to damage in the blood vessels.

but hey if you know what your doing.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

some side effects of ephedrine
* Cardiovascular: tachycardia, cardiac arrhythmias, Angina pectoris, vasoconstriction with hypertension

* Dermatological: flushing, sweating, acne vulgaris

* Gastrointestinal: nausea, appetite loss

* Genitourinary: increased urine output due to increased blood flow (difficulty urinating is not uncommon, as alpha-agonists such as ephedrine constrict the internal urethral sphincter, mimicking the effects of sympathetic nervous system stimulation)

* Nervous system:restlessness, confusion, insomnia, mild euphoria, mania/hallucinations (rare except in previously existing psychiatric conditions), delusions, formication (may be possible, but lacks documented evidence) paranoia, hostility, panic, agitation

* Respiratory: dyspnea, pulmonary edema

* Miscellaneous: dizziness, headache, tremor, hyperglycemic reactions

Overdose can lead to death, although the approved dose is not likely to cause severe reactions when used as directed.

Ephedrine can also lead to damage of the brain receptors over a period of high usage; this is because of its constant action on the neurochemicals. It also leads to high increase in blood pressure which over time can lead to damage in the blood vessels.

Have used ephedrine before with no serious side effects. As with everything in life, moderation is key. And don't be taking the stuff if you have existing health conditions.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

You are definitely going to get a much better response asking this on a body building forum dude. From what I've seen here, most of the guys here are just a bunch of lazy slack *****, with the exception of Tapout.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

pm tapout.. not to many people here id take advice from..

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

I hear coke and crack are pretty effective means of losing weight //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[NJTStang11 10+ year member]

Ephedrine needs to be dosed properly.

I personally use 6 weeks on/2 weeks off and repeat.

First day begin with half pill ephedrine (12.5mg) along with 1 caffeine tablet.

Second day move to half pill ephedrine/pill caffeine, repeat 4-5 hrs later.

Third day move to full pill ephedrine/pill caffeine, repeat if your not jittery 5hrs later

Week two move to 3 of each a day, 4-5hrs apart.

Ephedrine was very awkward first time I took it. Very shaky and queezy feeling in my stomach. Remember the following two tips.

1) Keep your self hydrated big time. Both e/c are diuretic.

2) Take after small meal, atleast for me empty stomach + ec=nausea

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

pm tapout.. not to many people here id take advice from..

truth, that dood can't have squat for bodyfat. Unfortunately I'm guessing he eats alot cleaner and works alot harder than most are willing to do...

 

[docutech 10+ year member]

I am cutting right now. Cardio 3 days a week, lifting 3 days a week. One day off to let my body rest.

Your must burn more calories than you consume ~500 or so. Clean diet is crucial for a good and effective cut. No need for supplements or pills. Get a good multivitamin, some fish oil and drink plenty of water. What is your current weight and height?

 

[NJTStang11 10+ year member]

Oh, and in response to others posting, all this info posted by was learned on bb.com and am.com. Been through a few PH cycles and cutting cycles with hours on end of research. Not an expert, but by no means a rookie.