Completely new to everything, need death metal setup.

[BlaineGreen]

What do you guys think for my HU though? I have been looking around and I am trying to decide on the Clarion CZ702, or A pioneer DEH-8400. The pioneer I found for around 100, and the clarion about 130. I like the CLarion but alot of people say it has really bad display in the day time, and I live in AZ so it's always bright as hell outside.

 

[Based]

What do you guys think for my HU though? I have been looking around and I am trying to decide on the Clarion CZ702, or A pioneer DEH-8400. The pioneer I found for around 100, and the clarion about 130. I like the CLarion but alot of people say it has really bad display in the day time, and I live in AZ so it's always bright as hell outside.

Obvously I'm not an HU expert so I'm not gonna tell you what to do, I'll wait for jeff and the others to chime in //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif.

But as far as subs I'd def do 2 15s in that space... won't even take up the whole thing...

 

[BlaineGreen]

Any suggestions for sub brand?

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

You don't have a audiophile head unit. It's the source man, the most important part of the build.

^^^^^ this 100%

I see people running great setups and the running a $50 headunit..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

Any suggestions for sub brand?

Look into Soundqubed. Best bang for your buck.

 

[Based]

^^^^^ this 100%
I see people running great setups and the running a $50 headunit..//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

I did not buy it it was in the truck when I bought it but it is a 500$ HU...

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

I did not buy it it was in the truck when I bought it but it is a 500$ HU...

My bad I wasn't directing that towards you. Just saying I've seen it a lot.

 

[Joseph7195 10+ year member]

Just to be the asshole, I wouldn't recommend a high end head unit to a guy wanting to make his death metal louder. For some fucking reason that sounds stupid to me.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

Just to be the asshole, I wouldn't recommend a high end head unit to a guy wanting to make his death metal louder. For some fucking reason that sounds stupid to me.

you still need sound stage and time alignment so you have proper instrument separation. The thing with death metal or any metal is, it can easily turn into a glob of noise if it wasn't already a giant glob of noise to begin with. The highs can get ear piercingly harsh and the bass will generally lag behind the speakers without proper time correction.

OP, stick with the clarion because that one has time alignment. For subs, go with soundqubed they can get very punchy in a proper box.

 

[BlaineGreen]

Alright thank's for all the help by the way. I'll be buying the HU this week hopefully. As for the soundqubed, I am looking at some different models, should I get 15's? or stick with 12's? I've been looking at the HDS312/HDS315 and they both have 1200W RMS, 2400W Peak, and what is the difference between DUal 2ohm/4 ohm? (sorry for all the questions guys, I am COMPLETELY new and am trying to catch on

 

[Based]

Alright thank's for all the help by the way. I'll be buying the HU this week hopefully. As for the soundqubed, I am looking at some different models, should I get 15's? or stick with 12's? I've been looking at the HDS312/HDS315 and they both have 1200W RMS, 2400W Peak, and what is the difference between DUal 2ohm/4 ohm? (sorry for all the questions guys, I am COMPLETELY new and am trying to catch on

the difference between dual 2 ohm and dual 4 ohm is how you can wire the subs to the amp. If you go look at any amp and look at the power they can make (RMS, not peak. Peak means absolutely nothing) then you will see it can do certain amounts of power at certain ohm ratings. For example an amp might do 1100 watts at 1 ohm whereas it'll do only 750 at 2 ohms and maybe 450 at 4 ohms.

What an ohm is is a form of resistance to a flow of power/current. So more ohms means less watts basically.

There's about 100 different ways you can wire speakers together but don't worry you can always just google subwoofer wiring diagrams and it'll show you your options. Like if you have 2 DVC (Dual Voice Coil) 4 ohm subwoofers, you can wire them a few different ways to end up having a certain ohm load. If you have 2 DVC 4 ohm subs that can each take 1200 RMS a piece, then they can take about 2400 RMS total. You CAN wire up 2 DVC 4 ohm subs down to only 1 ohm, so you'd go out and look for an amp that can do 2400 watts RMS at 1 ohm.

Like I said, to understand more of what I'm talking about just google "subwoofer wiring diagrams" and you'll find a link to this site called crutchfield . com and they have every diagram you need.

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

since your fairly new, i'd say run a single D2 HDS300 15" wired in parallel on 1200 rms. Any higher power, you'll need to pour money into electrical upgrades or else your car's electrical system will fail.

Learn how to set amplifier gains properly with a digital multi meter.

When buying amps, avoid boss, power acoustik, lanzar, pyramid, pyle, crunch, performance tecknique, SSL, SPL, autotek. All are garbage, their price looks tempting and their numbers look huge but its utter complete junk.

 

[BlaineGreen]

So as far as an amp do I need an map that puts out 1200 watts?

 

[Jeffdachef 5,000+ posts]

So as far as an amp do I need an map that puts out 1200 watts?

at least 1200.

HDS300 Bundle 430 shipped for high quality amp, and 15" woofer.

You ever try building your own box before? its pretty easy to do and its a must to get a proper box for any woofer you get.

 

[BlaineGreen]

That soundqubed bundle is out of stuck :/ any other suggestions for an amp that would work with the hds315?