Colorado build

[Low-Rado]

Hey peeps. So Im starting a build on my 06 reg cab Colorado and looking to you guys for advice. I'd like to share that I am not an audio guru but I do know some and can keep up with what you tell me. I'm completely open to opinions on what to put in it. It does have a set up in it already but its just something I stuck in it to get me by. Right now it has 2 audiopipe 10's with a cheap 3000.1D Boss amp (I'm aware the amp is junk just happen to have one laying around). What do you guys think I should run in it? I want it to pound. Opinions on brands, sizes, boxes, amps and everything is welcome. Running stock alt and battery. Got a Kenwood dx271 double din head unit in it already. Thanks fellas.

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[The Camry]

Budget?

What are you aiming for? SQL, SPL, Aiming to impress others?

What kind of music do you listen too?

Do you want to tune it yourself and learn over time or do you want plug and play?

 

[Low-Rado]

I'd say my budget is probably in the mid range area maybe a little more. Not made of money but don't want crap either. Don't really know the difference in the categories but I want it to pound as hard as it can and my music still be enjoyable. As far as what kind of music I dabble in just about everything. From hip hop to hard rock and metal to dubstep. I'm not real good at tuning because well..I just don't know diddly about it but I do like to learn and I generally go overboard with my hobbies.

 

[The Camry]

Gimme an actual budget number man.

 

[Low-Rado]

It won't all be bought at one time but I'd say around 800-1000.

 

[The Camry]

Ok so we start with your front stage. Your head unit is solid so we need a good amp and speakers. Hertz Esk 165.5 (plenty of diff choices in speakers. These are just what i have and they are nice) 279$. you can find a good 100rms amp on here for around 200. So thats 500. 20$ for speaker wire. 40$ for wiring kit.

$560. You only really need one good 12 on good power to really pound.

Anything on this site sub wise SoundSolutionsAudio's Online car audio store! Best prices, products and customer service. Fast shipping to US, Canada and More!! i say go with a 200$ sub. round 800 rms. Nother 200 for a good amp.

SoundQubed Q1-750 Amplifier - SSA STORE

$960 plus wiring kit.

$$1000

youll need a box for that sub. Dont buy prefab. You can find designs online. bout 80 in materials to build yourself a box. You can find good amps/subwoofers on here for sale and that would keep you under budget. If you buy from people on here. use paypal and make sure they have some kind of reference. People like to scam and hustle. Just watch your back.

 

[Low-Rado]

Awesome thank you. What is in it now isn't bad really. The amp is junk but I'm kind of impressed with those audiopipe 10's. They are beefy for 10's. I think they are 800w/400w dual 4ohm. The amp is a 3000.1. I've got it wired down to 1 ohm and I feel like those audiopipes are hungry for more power. I pulled the stock door speakers and through in better ones. I think they where in the 100w RMS area, SSL brand. No amp on the front stage. There is only two speakers in the whole truck might I add. My only option at the time was a prefab box just to get something in there. I'm not really up to speed on what's good now a day's but ppl around here seem to like DD, sundown, fi and a few others. I kind of like the 2 sub set up but if I can get loud with just one that's cool too.

 

[The Camry]

So im not insulting you but..you dont know what 1 sub in a proper box on proper power can do. I have one sa-12 on 1000rms and it ******* tears up. You hear a proper set up and youll look down on your audiopipes. My friend, you about to be blown away //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/amplifier-classifieds/613342-jl-audio-package-deal.html This guys jl 300/4 would be a perfect amp for you speakers and its 175 to boot.

Now there are some things your going to have to learn.

you really only need one set of speakers. Trust me, good speakers on good power, are really loud and clean and all you'll ever need.

You can run the passive crossovers for a component set but all speakers sound better when you run them active. Which means you choose the crossover points, which means at what frequencies what speakers play. You gotta be careful though. If you dont know what your doing. you can blow speakers The ESKS will sound ok on the passive crossovers but WAY WAY better run active.

you gotta look into how to run wire and crimp them and what not as well as how to wire subwoofers correctly. I can help you with all that, tons of info online as well.

There is a big learning curve and alot of little things to learn as well. Dont be afraid of using the search function, if you click the white search button box, you can click "search titles" which i have found to be great for finding specific questions.

 

[Low-Rado]

No insult taken. I think one of the bigger problems I might run into is space. It is a regular cab and I am 6'4" so I gotta have the seat back a pretty good ways. Colorado's are roomy for their size though. Pretty solid on the running wire, crimping and wiring correctly portion. However I've never ran more than one amp before so that's new to me and I'm lost on the crossover part but I am a research-aholic. I won't be offended if you talk to me like a rookie because I am just that and I'm aware of it lol

 

[The Camry]

If you have a local shop. Go there and ask them what a good way to put in a box in your truck would be. Dont let them talk you up or sell you anything but sometimes having a local opinion is helpful. Trucks are really tricky to put boxes in. Ive seen some pretty cool ways of doing it though. people building boxes, putting them in the back of their truck, Cutting circle holes into the back metal and pushing the subwoofer surround into it. So just the sub is in the actual cab and everything else in the bed.

this is an extreme case but kind like this

http://image.sporttruck.com/f/10758591+w750+st0/0807st_16_z+truck_bed_sub_enclosure+trim_panels.jpg

or the little back area. http://www.pickupspecialties.com/Subwoofer_boxes/Truckboxcopy.JPG

or maybe if you have room under the seat itself and you could put a box under it.

IDK trucks are hard...

if you have wired one amp, youve wired them all. Two channels can run passive. four channel can run active. You just run the pos to battery. Neg to chassis. Run speaker wire to speakers.

Gotta find a place to mount your tweeters. The passive xovers that come with components make things easy. You just run your +/- speaker wire from your amp to your passive x-over and then it has 4 screws for you to attach your speaker wires too. 2 screws +/- to woofer. 2 screws +/- to tweeter. It chooses your crossover points for you

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTU2WDc0Mg==/z/w2IAAOSwd4tUIK48/$_12.JPG

 

[sthib 10+ year member]

If you have a local shop. Go there and ask them what a good way to put in a box in your truck would be. Dont let them talk you up or sell you anything but sometimes having a local opinion is helpful. Trucks are really tricky to put boxes in. Ive seen some pretty cool ways of doing it though. people building boxes, putting them in the back of their truck, Cutting circle holes into the back metal and pushing the subwoofer surround into it. So just the sub is in the actual cab and everything else in the bed.
this is an extreme case but kind like this

http://image.sporttruck.com/f/10758591+w750+st0/0807st_16_z+truck_bed_sub_enclosure+trim_panels.jpg

or the little back area. http://www.pickupspecialties.com/Subwoofer_boxes/Truckboxcopy.JPG

or maybe if you have room under the seat itself and you could put a box under it.

IDK trucks are hard...

if you have wired one amp, youve wired them all. Two channels can run passive. four channel can run active. You just run the pos to battery. Neg to chassis. Run speaker wire to speakers.

Gotta find a place to mount your tweeters. The passive xovers that come with components make things easy. You just run your +/- speaker wire from your amp to your passive x-over and then it has 4 screws for you to attach your speaker wires too. 2 screws +/- to woofer. 2 screws +/- to tweeter. It chooses your crossover points for you

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTU2WDc0Mg==/z/w2IAAOSwd4tUIK48/$_12.JPG

I'm not trying to be insulting but don't push his to do a blow through yet. And he should look into some good 10s or 8s because the odds of him fitting a good 12 is slim to none. I use to have a single cab truck and it is hard lol.

 

[Low-Rado]

The 10' that are in it now fit pretty good. They are in a crappy sealed prefab box with little airspace. You've got my attention on this active crossover thing. Would you mind going into detail about it some? The truck is the work truck model so there is one speaker in each door and thats it. No rear speakers at all. I did run some tweeters in it today up through the column by the windshield. Do I only need 1 active crossover to run everything? Second small amp to power the crossover?

 

[The Camry]

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/speakers/146726-active-vs-passive-attempt-me-explain.html

Depending on your angle/speaker themselves, and about a 1000 other factors. Where you set your crossover points changes. On a passive crossover. Its a series of coils and things(not sure how they work exactly), that absorb energy and change what frequencies go to what speakers. you dont need to plug it in to power or anything, Its something that you just run your speakers through and it allows say 3khz to go to the tweeters and everything under 3khz goes to the woofer.

Well an active crossover is one that allows you to choose where you want that crossover point to be. Say 3khz or 5 khz or 2200hz or whatever you want. Its usually a processor that you have to run power cables for or its built into your head unit. all those factors i mentioned come into play when choosing your crossover point. So being able to go active allows you to really get the very best out of your speakers. For me, i just messed with the x-over(crossover) till i found a good place where it sounded best. There is a lot of science behind how you should aim eachother speaker and where to cross them over at and blah blah. I just used my ear.

Though you gotta be careful because you cant really go below 3 khz on your tweeters because itll blow em up. Idk, there a ton of info out there and alot you should know before going active. Go passive for now see how you like it and after you have done your fair share of research. Go active.

if you get a good amp to power your speakers. Itll have a high pass/low pass filter on it. I could go into detail but it'd be a mute point. Do you research. Itll give you all the answers to the questions you dont understand at this point.

 

[big scott]

measure were you would like the box. then convert that to cubic feet. that will let you know what size and how many you can put into that space.

dont get a prefabbed box.

you need to match the box to the sub.

you can get a nice set of 6.5 comps. and a amp to push them

subs and a good amp to push them

sound deadening,, speaker wire,, power wire,, rca's,, fuse holders with fuses.

also plan it out. you can do it in stages like do the sub system first. or front stage first..

what h/u unit do you have? do you plan on getting a better h/u ??

and is the 800 to 1,000 max for your budget ??

and soundqbed has good stuff for the money. you could get your speakers/amps/sound deadner,, subs there.

look up KnuKonceptz.com for wire,rca's .

there are other brands also.

 

[Low-Rado]

I have a Kenwood ddx271. I like it but if I needed to I could get a better one. As far as my budget I could spend more over a period of time. I usually don't have more than a couple hundred dollars to spend at any given time.