so as nice as the subs look sitting there, as soon as i got them in there they came right back out to be boxed up and shipped back to cadence. no worries, they have a brand new pair on their way to me. i guess the pair i got was in their early stages(i bought them right when they came out) and thats when they had the defective batch.... i should have the new ones by the end of the next week since I have a show to go to with the truck if not i have a nice ornament of a box to show off lol.