Best Amp Kits?

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

........and that would be Kicker, which is as close to the best as anyone needs.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

I love flame wars.

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Actually, its all three of the companies that were mentioned in this thread. Kicker just doesn't offer any lower-line stuff.

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

Actually, its all three of the companies that were mentioned in this thread. Kicker just doesn't offer any lower-line stuff.

You take all the fun out of flame wars..........

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[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

I was the one involved in the so-called "flame war". I wasn't trying to flame on anyone. Just trying to show that there is an advantage to upper-end wire. I just think it's logical that these companies would trust in gimmicks and marketing over true performance. Is marketing important? **** right it is. It's the reason that Stinger is 100x better known than Knu, even though Knu offers better wire at cheaper prices. But it's a mix of marketing and real-world performance that keeps these companies on top.

 

[Rich B 5,000+ posts]

I was the one involved in the so-called "flame war". I wasn't trying to flame on anyone. Just trying to show that there is an advantage to upper-end wire. I just think it's logical that these companies would trust in gimmicks and marketing over true performance. Is marketing important? **** right it is. It's the reason that Stinger is 100x better known than Knu, even though Knu offers better wire at cheaper prices. But it's a mix of marketing and real-world performance that keeps these companies on top.

Just giving you a bad time about the flaming.

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As far as Knu and Stinger, another major difference between them is that Stinger also isnt solely relying on direct selling to the customer, they are widely available in well over half the local install shops.

If Knu ever wants to grow they will eventually be forced into following the traditional retail model, but lets hope not 'cause the quality and service would probably suffer.

 

[Boulderguy 10+ year member]

I was the one involved in the so-called "flame war". I wasn't trying to flame on anyone. Just trying to show that there is an advantage to upper-end wire. I just think it's logical that these companies would trust in gimmicks and marketing over true performance. Is marketing important? **** right it is. It's the reason that Stinger is 100x better known than Knu, even though Knu offers better wire at cheaper prices. But it's a mix of marketing and real-world performance that keeps these companies on top.

Here's the thing - they're trying to sell you something. And you're trusting the salesman's claims over basic physics. That's exactly what they want you to do.

These are the same ppl that said you needed a cap. C'mon, use your head.

The flaming was fun but I'm not trying to single you out - most ppl would agree with you before me. But the audio industry depends on those trends, hype & marketing BS as well as misinformation as much as any.

I could tell you things about the R & D side of the biz that would pop your cherry hard, like getting dry humped by a 300# German named Gunther. I won't do that to you.

Ask yourself if there will be any audible difference from what you're investing your money in. If not, you're buying bling. Nothing wrong with that, just be eyes-open about it.

 

[wesl56 10+ year member]

like getting dry humped by a 300# German named Gunther.

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i thought this thread was about wirezzz

 

[Boulderguy 10+ year member]

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i thought this thread was about wirezzz

Gunther's packing a big cable. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Here's the thing - they're trying to sell you something. And you're trusting the salesman's claims over basic physics. That's exactly what they want you to do.
These are the same ppl that said you needed a cap. C'mon, use your head.

The flaming was fun but I'm not trying to single you out - most ppl would agree with you before me. But the audio industry depends on those trends, hype & marketing BS as well as misinformation as much as any.

I could tell you things about the R & D side of the biz that would pop your cherry hard, like getting dry humped by a 300# German named Gunther. I won't do that to you.

Ask yourself if there will be any audible difference from what you're investing your money in. If not, you're buying bling. Nothing wrong with that, just be eyes-open about it.

Will it make a big difference to the average guy? No. But if you've invested thousands of dollars in your audio equipment and are pusshing thousands of watts like tome of the guys on here, having the best possible electrical support is important. And for an extra dollor or two per foot, I'd say its a good investment.

 

[Boulderguy 10+ year member]

If you think that's a good investment, I've got some doozies for ya. Send me your money! //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[M1K3 10+ year member]

what do you guys think about rockford fosgate kits?

 

[Frankensuby 10+ year member]

Had a RF kit. Was NOT impressed.

I got a cheapo Scosche kit that came with 2 sets of Shielded twisted RCA cables, a Battery terminal, a few feet of loom, zipties, fuse holder, fuse, distribution block with an extra double line fuse,and an extra fuse along with speaker wire and basic tools. For 30$ if I remember, I was jealous because I spent 2x the $ for half the options and stuff.

It worked fine, but my GF's car wouldn't let me put the terminal on correctly because the stock wiring was not long enough

 

[sniper007 10+ year member]

whuts up with knukonceptz with all their good shit sold out?

 

[sniper007 10+ year member]

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[Lunchbocks 10+ year member]

I got KnuKoncepts Kolossus power/ground and its been sitting on my shelf for like 2 months cuz I'm too lazy to install anything. I bought it cuz I heard good things. It wasn't expensive either IMO

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

Will it make a big difference to the average guy? No. But if you've invested thousands of dollars in your audio equipment and are pusshing thousands of watts like tome of the guys on here, having the best possible electrical support is important. And for an extra dollor or two per foot, I'd say its a good investment.

Where should we draw the line though? If we are just going to say to hell with phsyics and buy what's "better" why not get some top of the link kimber cable or Nordost stuff? Here's a good deal, it's used however, so it should be burned it properly.... http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablspkr&1170863602

I'm not saying wire makes no difference, however, it doesn't make much of one. Assuming it's shielded well, flexible, and seems to be sturdy, your good to go. Paying for cryogenically frozen wire with a perfect geometric structure that was burned in after 1000hrs of music is nonsense. I guess if you really want to measure RLC to see what's actually the best wire, you could, but i think the tradeoffs are marginal. I'd honestly be willing to wager some of the higher end wire is the worse in terms of RLC. It's a quick way to get a signature sound, aside from clever marketing.