Best 12" 500-600 watt?

[tb30570 10+ year member]

I'm looking for some help picking out a 12" subwoofer. This is what I'm looking for:

Power handling between 500-600 watts-RMS

Two ohm equivalent

Very flat frequency response between 25-50Hz

Optimum sealed enclosure size less than or equal to 1.25 cubic feet

High reliability

High sound quality

Cost under $200 with shipping

These three subwoofers are the ones I'm most interested in:

Eclipse-SW6210 12mm-Xmax 20.5Hz-Fs 0.44-Qts 6.40625-Depth 1-ft3 $129.99

HiFonics-ZX12D4 15mm-Xmax 25Hz-Fs 0.411-Qts 6.22-Depth 1-ft3 $74.99

Soundstream-RW12 14mm-Xmax 24.75Hz-Fs 0.467-Qts 6.5-Depth 1-ft3 $133.45

I'm also considering these subwoofers, but am not as interested:

Alpine-SWR1242D 18.2mm-Xmax 29Hz-Fs 0.47-Qts 7.7-Depth 0.85-ft3 $126.95

Eclipse-SW7200 17.78mm-Xmax 28Hz-Fs 0.52-Qts 6.5625-Depth 1-ft3 $170.54

JL Audio-12W3v32 13mm-Xmax 27.97Hz-Fs 0.5-Qts 6.65-Depth 1.25-ft3 $157.5

Kicker-S12C4 16mm-Xmax 26Hz-Fs 0.464-Qts 6.3125-Depth 0.88-ft3 $162.95

Phoenix Gold-RSdC124 14.8mm-Xmax 26.4Hz-Fs 0.491-Qts 6.24-Depth 1.17-ft3 $109.95

Planet Audio-BB12D 14.3002mm-Xmax 29Hz-Fs 0.532-Qts 7.875-Depth 1-ft3 $135.95

Rockford Fosgate-P3D412 13.4mm-Xmax 27Hz-Fs 0.52-Qts 6.75-Depth 1-ft3 $115

Soundstream-RBW12 10.5mm-Xmax 29.93Hz-Fs 0.751-Qts 6.5-Depth 1.25-ft3 $138.99

These subwoofers also fit some of the specs I'm looking for, but not others, so I'm not very interested in them:

Cerwin Vega-VMax124 13.8mm-Xmax 32.676Hz-Fs 0.567-Qts 6.77-Depth 1-ft3

Clarion-PXW1252 12mm-Xmax 34.27Hz-Fs 0.57-Qts 6.125-Depth 1.5-ft3

Diamond Audio-D612D4 16mm-Xmax 32Hz-Fs 0.49-Qts 5.905-Depth 1.175-ft3

HiFonics-ATL12D4 17mm-Xmax 27Hz-Fs 0.437-Qts 7.22-Depth 1.5-ft3

HiFonics-B12D4 15mm-Xmax 31.77Hz-Fs 0.488-Qts 6.7-Depth 2-ft3

HiFonics-BRZ12D4 15mm-Xmax 31.77Hz-Fs 0.488-Qts 6.7-Depth 2-ft3

JL Audio-12W6v2D4 16.5mm-Xmax 25Hz-Fs 0.45-Qts 7.6-Depth 1.25-ft3 $308

MB Quart-PWH304 15mm-Xmax 26Hz-Fs 0.545-Qts 7.1-Depth 1.3-ft3

MTX-T851244 21.59mm-Xmax 35.48Hz-Fs 0.74-Qts 7.8125-Depth 1.25-ft3

Rockford Fosgate-T112D4 14mm-Xmax 33Hz-Fs 0.55-Qts 6.7-Depth 1.25-ft3

Does anybody have any experience with any of the subwoofers above they would like to share? I've also attached an easier to read version of the subwoofers in question.

I'll share some of my opinons on subwoofers I've owned:

Kicker Comp 12" (pre Solo-Baric): tight base, not robust design, overstated power handling

Cerwin Vega 12" (pre Stroker or any other series): best frequency response of any sub I've ever had, not high SPL, 3 ft3 enclosure not very practical

B52 15": Xmax way to low for power rating, not great frequency response for a 15", 4 ft3 enclosure not very practical, not robust design

Rockford Fosgate RFR-1212 12": crazy SPL, ok frequency response, robust design, nice sound quality, enclosure requirement is a little large

Kicker L5 12": ok SPL, ok frequency response, not very robust design, not very good sound quality, enclosure size small

Rockford Fosgate P1 8": great frequency response for an 8", very small enclosure requirement, not high SPL due to limited power, not very good sound quality

Rockford Fosgate Power 8": ok frequency response for an 8", very small enclosure requirement, not high SPL considering power handling, ok sound quality

Phoenix Gold RSd 10": probably the worst subwoofer I've ever owned, poor sound quality, poor frequency response, poor SPL, very small enclosure requirements

Rockford Fosgate RFP1210 10": ok frequency response, very small enclosure requirements, good SPL, good sound quality

Alpine R-Series 10": poor frequency response, small enclosure requirements, poor SPL considering the power handling, good sound quality

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[KyleBechtold 5,000+ posts]

the jlw6 if you can find it.. I sold my pair for like 3xx so 1 shouldn't be TOO bad

 

[tb30570 10+ year member]

the jlw6 if you can find it.. I sold my pair for like 3xx so 1 shouldn't be TOO bad

I'm actually going to purchase two. I just purchased a 2nd MTX 801D for the Redline, so I'll use one amp per subwoofer. I want to buy new subwoofers, so two W6's would run over $600. I don't want to spend that much. If you know of a source where new W6's cost less, I might be interested.

 

[microhaxo 10+ year member]

Phoenix Gold-RSdC124 -- Amazing sub for that wattage and the price.

Very efficient SQ oriented sub.

 

[xxxbasshead 10+ year member]

200 per woofer or total for 2?

 

[mxer69 10+ year member]

get the rsdc.

 

[tb30570 10+ year member]

200 per woofer or total for 2?

$400 total

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

IA Lethal Inection

 

[twistedchild420 5,000+ posts]

Beyond Audio Inhuman , RD Sonance, IA lethal injection.....JBL GTO also!

 

[7ender 10+ year member]

Ia Li

 

[tb30570 10+ year member]

microhaxo & mxer657, are you running PG-RSdC in your cars?

if so, are you running sealed enclosures?

how is the SPL?

how is the frequency response at 25Hz?

 

[tb30570 10+ year member]

Beyond Audio Inhuman , RD Sonance, IA lethal injection.....JBL GTO also!

JBL GTO's power handling is a little less than I'm looking for.

Which vendors carry Beyond Audio Inhuman, RD Sonance and IA lethal injection?

Do Beyond Audio Inhuman, RD Sonance and IA lethal injection have web sites?

 

[na_rsx 10+ year member]

http://incriminatoraudio.com/update/index.php?page=2&product=2

they like 500-700rms, and tuned to 32hz, 1 is all you need imo, my videos:

 

[tb30570 10+ year member]

It doesn't look like I can purchase IA products very easily where I live.

Does IA publish the Thiele/Small parameters?

 

[tb30570 10+ year member]

has anybody owned or listened to a HiFonics ZX12D4?