B&w Vs Svs

My reading comprehension skills are fine. I noticed that you consistently look like an arrogant douche bag whenever you post.
That's all I've got to say, that's all I'm going to say. You kids continue having fun with that.
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They don't get more thuggish then Cincinnati Ohio //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif
Nope not really... OTR maybe, but not Cincy in general...

 
Sometimes I wonder if people even read anything of the arguments or if they have any reading comprehension skills //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif
Topic of title is SVS vs B&W it is not my sub vs anything else so why would I think my sub is better then everyone else's in a topic about SVS vs B&W? Just cause some guy/girl on the net says his dayton is better then my sub and his obviously to afraid to post even pictures of his setup am I suppose to believe him....right....//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/redface.gif.62fdbfe1a101588a808c4cff71bcb942.gif
You started this thread to get everyone's panties riled up, and prove that your brand (SVS, which I consistently see you recommending to everyone on the forum) was better than the someone else's brand. It's pretty obvious you and joetama disagree about B&W speakers, and you wanted to prove that B&W isn't what its cracked up to be. Well you did drive the point home that B&W isn't a very good value, but you failed to drive the point home that the SVS 10" was better or even an acceptable driver. It had 10% distortion, and you found that desirable...which is actually abhorrent performance. I tried to convince you that the SVS was a poor driver, but you just blabbering your ignorance. You don't even know how to assess a distortion measurement...the SVS is not good from:

The svs is good from 20 hertz and up for 95 db....
It is incredibly poor past a narrow notch around 40hz where the distortion is at least below the double digits.

I then provided objective data (distortion measurements, bl/inductance/etc curves) trying to explain to you what a good driver measured like (way below 1% distortion). I never brought up the fact that I owned a Dayton woofer or that it was better than your "sub" until you questioned the Dayton's fidelity and low end performance.

It would lol cause I have mines low passed at 45 hertz... My towers play down to 35 hertz no problems (definitive technology 7001s 2-10"s subs each with a 1800 watt plate amp) But for what my sub was made for 45 hertz hertz all the way down to 10 hertz, I doubt the dayton even 4 would have usable output down to 10 hertz lol
I didn't appreciate the ignorant comments concerning the driver and thats where the whole argument started. I tried to provide you with actual information relating to how drivers work in the home environment and the factors that contribute to how they sound...and you just spat in my face. Your argument against my case was "I don't care". Hardly intelligent at all, ignorant/misinformed/unintelligent people like you are the reason caraudio.com doesn't have a very good reputation.

and yes you are supposed to believe me that the Daytons would have higher output and have lower distortion. Even if you don't consider me credible, John Krutke (ie Zaph did the distortion measurements) and npdang (admin of diymobileaudio.com, did the klippel measurements) are considered very credible amongst forum members across the internet.

 
Sometimes I wonder if people even read anything of the arguments or if they have any reading comprehension skills //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif
You're the one who has trouble interpreting our argument. You have no argument.

 
You're the one who has trouble interpreting our argument. You have no argument.
Who are you again.... oh wait NOBODY just a guy/girl behind a computer who is trying to prove SOMEONE wrong...

Post your name or at least a picture of your setup then I will take your seriously. Anyone can make an account and hide behind a screen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Now its my turn to make one and say I got more money then donald trump and call him out, and just say I do without any kind of proof....

 
You started this thread to get everyone's panties riled up, and prove that your brand (SVS, which I consistently see you recommending to everyone on the forum) was better than the someone else's brand. It's pretty obvious you and joetama disagree about B&W speakers, and you wanted to prove that B&W isn't what its cracked up to be. Well you did drive the point home that B&W isn't a very good value, but you failed to drive the point home that the SVS 10" was better or even an acceptable driver.
Not sure why everyone has it out for me... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

B&W isn't the best value in low cost subwoofers. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

But, I doubt anyone is going to agree with me here, so there is no point in arguing it.

You're the one who has trouble interpreting our argument. You have no argument.
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Who are you again.... oh wait NOBODY just a guy/girl behind a computer who is trying to prove SOMEONE wrong...
Post your name or at least a picture of your setup then I will take your seriously. Anyone can make an account and hide behind a screen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Now its my turn to make one and say I got more money then donald trump and call him out, and just say I do without any kind of proof....
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Thadman is not an idiot or just some kid behind a computer. I don't know him personally but I have seen his questions/answers on several other forums and he seems to be very intelligent and well school on a lot of technical aspects of loudspeakers. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/graduate.gif.d982460be9f153bb54e5d4cb744f6ae8.gif

I would like to see his DIY stuff sometime, Ft Wayne is only about an hour away from my home town...

 
Who are you again.... oh wait NOBODY just a guy/girl behind a computer who is trying to prove SOMEONE wrong...
Post your name or at least a picture of your setup then I will take your seriously. Anyone can make an account and hide behind a screen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Now its my turn to make one and say I got more money then donald trump and call him out, and just say I do without any kind of proof....
You don't have to take ME seriously, but you should take those aforementioned seriously who are my references. Also, why would I hide behind a screen? I have done nothing but provide facts. My goal in this thread was to correct the misinformation and inform you about home audio...This is NOT a "who has a bigger penis" contest.

Also, thats hardly an accurate analogy.

If I said a stock Lingenfelter Corvette beats a stock Viper in the quarter mile or the Viper had better gas mileage or the Lingenfelter had higher low end torque...etc...etc, and provided objective data backing up my claims regarding both cars...it would be pretty evident and clear which car was faster/better on gas/etc after reviewing the information.

Providing pictures of both cars does nothing for the argument of which is objectively better. I don't care if you believe what I own or not...as it adds nothing to this thread or our argument. I don't have to boost my self esteem by posting pictures of my setup on the internet (reason why I don't have any of my equipment in my sig).

 
In the end its all that matters is that I like it....I had a bunch of friends over yesterday a couple did say the box needs work but then the friends who knew what I was gonna do stepped in an explained how I was gonna get it painted high gloss black when I move the sub to the new house sometime early october, then all of them agreed it was gonna be sick including their girls.
Uninformed/inexperienced people are hardly a good reference for quality. Just because your friend(s) think it sounds awesome, looks great...doesn't make it so.

To drive that point home, look how popular BOSE is. They put out a crappy product, yet everyone thinks "oh my god, BOSE is AWESOME!"

 
Who are you again.... oh wait NOBODY just a guy/girl behind a computer who is trying to prove SOMEONE wrong...
Post your name or at least a picture of your setup then I will take your seriously. Anyone can make an account and hide behind a screen //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

Now its my turn to make one and say I got more money then donald trump and call him out, and just say I do without any kind of proof....
I fail to see your issue with thadman here.

I've met him. He's not pretty. Smells kinda bad. But other than that generally a good guy.

Pictures of his setup or list of credentials has nothing to do with anything he's posted thus far.

PS: You are a nobody also, just a guy behind a computer with a kinda loud car audio setup who can't even completely design his own enclosures......so I fail to see why you are demanding such information from thad or why you think it's even relevant to the conversation. He didn't invent the information he's posted. His credentials and/or system don't really come in to play any here.

 
I fail to see your issue with thadman here.
I've met him. He's not pretty. Smells kinda bad. But other than that generally a good guy.

Pictures of his setup or list of credentials has nothing to do with anything he's posted thus far.
Well his saying his sub is better then mine so whats so hard with posting a picture of it? I am not saying his a bad guy or an idiot, but how am I suppose to trust a word he says without knowing anything about him? Or am I suppose to just trust any stranger on the net? I can post my stat's and pictures of my setup with a complete FR graph and the whole build... and about me buiding my own boxe's or designing them, I can show you an ish load of pictures of box's I have built in the front of the house.. so often it killed the grass somehow (mdf dust) but ill go on and finish watching some movies that came in from netflix just now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif see yall in a couple of hours pansies //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif

His credentials and/or system don't really come in to play any here.
Read above, thank you come again //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
Here's a pic.

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And another.

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Well his saying his sub is better then mine so whats so hard with posting a picture of it?
I'm not arguing that my setup is better than yours...I was arguing that multiple daytons (dont have to be mine) would objectively outperform a TC2000 (doesn't have to be yours. I really do not care what you have...theres no point in getting in a petty argument with somebody I'll never meet.

I am not saying his a bad guy or an idiot, but how am I suppose to trust a word he says without knowing anything about him? Or am I suppose to just trust any stranger on the net?
For the third time...

Even if you don't consider me credible, John Krutke (ie Zaph did the distortion measurements) and npdang (admin of diymobileaudio.com, did the klippel measurements) are considered very credible amongst forum members across the internet.

You don't have to take ME seriously, but you should take those aforementioned seriously who are my references. Also, why would I hide behind a screen? I have done nothing but provide facts. My goal in this thread was to correct the misinformation and inform you about home audio...This is NOT a "who has a bigger penis" contest.
You don't have to take me seriously or consider me credible to understand my point. I'm not claiming I created an equation or understand a branch of acoustic physics that nobody else has considered or thought of before...I cited my sources.

I can post my stat's and pictures of my setup with a complete FR graph and the whole build... and about me buiding my own boxe's or designing them, I can show you an ish load of pictures of box's I have built in the front of the house.. so often it killed the grass somehow (mdf dust) but ill go on and finish watching some movies that came in from netflix just now //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif see yall in a couple of hours pansies //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/veryhappy.gif.fec4fed33b4a1279cf10bdd45a039dae.gif
I still fail to see how that contributes to your argument or this thread

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