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Yes we all know someone who doesnt own a single thing in that he built in his ht knows more then someone who has. Wait but in theory he knows more cause the graph said so:laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif
Who would you trust to design a bridge? The immigrant construction worker or the structural engineer? The engineer doesn't own the building, he won't build it, and he will probably never work in it...but he sure as hell knows a lot more about the parameters that contribute to its performance and what goes into a good design than the immigrant construction worker whose skills are meager at best.

You can build a box? awesome! Can you design one yourself? No. I fail to see how this perspective benefits you. You've established yourself as someone who is no different than a construction worker or a carpenter who is given directions. Someone of that caliber follows commands, he possesses no problem solving skills or innovation.
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Your just mad cause B&W bent you over and didnt use any lubricant when you paid all that money for the overpriced speakers //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif
Wow, so your real goal for this thread comes out. You weren't trying to inform people or correct misinformation...you started it just to piss people off, so you'd look cool on an internet forum. Here's a cookie for you!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Act your age man.

 
Wow, so your real goal for this thread comes out. You started it just to piss people off. Here's a cookie for you!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Act your age man.
whats your age again?

whats your name again?

wheres the pix of your setup again?

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You can build a box? awesome! Can you design one yourself? No. I fail to see how your argument benefits you. You've established yourself as someone who is no different than a construction worker or a carpenter who is given directions. Someone of that caliber follows commands, he possesses no problem solving skills or innovation.
I designed my own box (with my friends final ok on the design)... Ive designed a hundred or so for my/others people setups and built dozens of them...

Wait how many have you built?

oh wait none //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif cause you wont even post a picture of your current setup //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif

 
I designed my own box (with my friends final ok on the design)... Ive designed a hundred or so for my/others people setups and built dozens of them...
Wait how many have you built?

oh wait none //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif cause you wont even post a picture of your current setup //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif
nobody asked for your credentials, they're not necessary. You've already represented yourself as somebody who isn't credible with your flaming and ignorant analogies/information.

Please lock this thread, its going nowhere.

 
nobody asked for your credentials, they're not necessary. You've already represented yourself as somebody who isn't credible with your flaming and ignorant analogies/information.
Please lock this thread, its going nowhere.
wheres pix of anything you built?

 
Lets see Ill post some of boxes I built and designed..

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Not the best looking box's but they were not meant to look nice just to perform //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

wait where are your setup pix again thadman?

that is also no where near all the boxes I have built and designed... looks to be only a 5 month span with tons of box's still missing in those 5 months...

 
Not the best looking box's but they were not meant to look nice just to perform //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
wait where are your setup pix again thadman?
Your really just making yourself look like a douche, here's how it went down.

You came in here with distortion plots you barely understood trying to show that the SVS sub was better than the B&W.

Thadman came in to point out that both of the subs are worthless and more or less, the B&W was the better of the 2 crappy drivers.

To prove his point, thadman showed the sub he's using, much cheaper than any of the others.

Your subs ended up in a direct comparison, you got butthurt, thinking your tc's sounds sub was the shit vs a Things get sorta technical, you can't follow it so you try to pretend like you know what your talking about non-car audio brand like dayton.

because you've built some SPl setups for cars.

Thadman points out most car audio is basically a joke in the grand scheme of audio reproduction, and your technical skills are lacking.

You show some boxes you built, since you obviously can't compete with him on actual audio knowledge as attempt to discredit him.

Frankly, I've got a friend who can build lots of boxes. He's a big fan of AB, pyle, and jensen and thinks max power on amps is all that matters. Until he heard my setup he was pretty sure is alpine coaxes off a sony amp would be way louder than my no name 3 way frontstage. (phl,peerless,B&C,haha) He's got lots hands on experience, he can install basic equipment quickly. However, compared to me in the grand scheme of all things audio, he's a ****ing douche in comparison. I've got alot less hands on experience, but anyone who considers him the audio guy to listen to would be remiss. It's no different here buddy, sorry.

PS. Meade's HT is a ****ing joke, just had to say it....

 
because you've built some SPl setups for cars.
Yes about a 50-80 spl setups... placed 7th at world finals in street c, with subs we just got the night before finals so we had no time to test boxes..

So pretty much you are saying your theorizing alone can build something a better box then someone who has both hands on experience and knowledge of how everything works?

So your friend likes pyle right? I have never ran pyle as you see I run whats the best thing available at the time... pyle is nowhere the best...but heh if you think pyle is as good as DD or memphis...

 
Wheres just 1 picture of something YOU built?
LOL
If I had a camera I'd show you. I've done the kicks in my car and am working on a subbox right now. Other than that not alot of speak of, one of my friends wants me to fg a center console,but I havent' decided if I will have the time to help him.

 
Yes about a 50-80 spl setups... placed 7th at world finals in street c, with subs we just got the night before finals so we had no time to test boxes..
So pretty much you are saying your theorizing alone can build something a better box then someone who has both hands on experience and knowledge of how everything works?

So your friend likes pyle right? I have never ran pyle as you see I run whats the best thing available at the time... pyle is nowhere the best...but heh if you think pyle is as good as DD or memphis...
experience and technical knowledge are both required for success. That's why we have both carpenters and engineers. However, the point of the discussion that you were on was technical, and compared to thadman, you don't know much of anything when it comes to audio, especially as it pertains to SQ, which is 99% of home audio. You can't argue klippel measurements by saying the person who took them can't build a box, lol.

 
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