Attn: All PG RSD owners.

60Hz is too low in my opinion.

I've tried 60, 70, 80, and 90 Hz on these RSD's. To me it all depends on what you're listening to. Most rap/hip hop you can get away with 70. However, when listening to metal or electronica, or anything else with a heavy and quick base line, 60 is going to bottom out quick.

Try going to 80Hz. It seems to be the xover point of choice for most with these comps. In fact, I prefer 90Hz on certain music. You may even want to try that, especially if your slope is lower. I'm on 24db/octave right now.

 
I don't see how that is possible. If that were true you would have distortion at lower volume. Think about it, you speakers are seeing less wattage with a lower volume setting.


Yes, I'm running them active on a JL 300/4. Looking for a 9887 for better control of the crossovers.

Hmm maybe my HPF at 60hz is too low. They seem to sound better after a few days of playing but in my opinion the Pioneer rev's have slightly better sq.
the more power you have = the less chance you'll drive the amp into heavy clipping, so less distortion. but then you get into over driving the speakers past xmax and then you get BL distortion. but generally with more power you can have it louder and sound cleaner.

60hz i believe is a tad low (depending on the music of course). i have mine at 80hz/12db. i have used 63hz/24db and have gotten good results though as well, but the steeper slope helps. but to me 80hz keeps the mids more linear.

with a good sub and some T/A you can still get the sub to sound right up front when crossed at 80hz. on most music, my car sounds like i just have giant mids up front with no high-pass on them. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 
Well the guy on ebay who is "selling" RSD 65cs sets is still screwing around with the projected ship dates.

Has anyone received a set of these speakers from this guy in the past week or two?

I'm going to report him and ask for a refund if he doesn't give me a solid ETA today. I've checked around the net and he's been doing this for a while. He's completely breaking ebay's rules about Pre-Sale listings. You can NOT sell an item that you don't have in your possession unless you are listing it specifically as a pre-sale (for example "this item will be released in 2 weeks and I'll ship it then"). The seller never mentioned that the item was on back order, so he is breaking the rules. He's sold over a dozen of these things in the past 3 weeks...

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/pre-sale.html

 
Well the guy on ebay who is "selling" RSD 65cs sets is still screwing around with the projected ship dates.
Has anyone received a set of these speakers from this guy in the past week or two?

I'm going to report him and ask for a refund if he doesn't give me a solid ETA today. I've checked around the net and he's been doing this for a while. He's completely breaking ebay's rules about Pre-Sale listings. You can NOT sell an item that you don't have in your possession unless you are listing it specifically as a pre-sale (for example "this item will be released in 2 weeks and I'll ship it then"). The seller never mentioned that the item was on back order, so he is breaking the rules. He's sold over a dozen of these things in the past 3 weeks...

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/pre-sale.html
Ive already reported him, ebay says they will try to limit some of his listings, basically the factory is sending out more this month, he is waiting on them still, his projected date is April 16th , he will refund you if you ask him. I am just going to wait on them.

 
Well, today he told me the ETA is April 16th.

I'm pretty sure he just pulled that out of his rear though, so if I find them in stock anywhere for a decent price before then I'll just request a refund from him and buy it elsewhere.

 
Pretty nice from both drivers. I remember, recently, somebody over on DIYMA suggested the RSD tweet plus the Pioneer PRS-720 mid bass; so that should tell you that this set is worth a hundred bucks.

Solid mid plus a solid tweet. Hard to beat for under a bill.

 
Well, today he told me the ETA is April 16th.
I'm pretty sure he just pulled that out of his rear though, so if I find them in stock anywhere for a decent price before then I'll just request a refund from him and buy it elsewhere.
i had another post on here somewhere about the run around i got.....and i had mine ordered march 8th....was told 5-6 days.....then i sent an email asking if they were in fact IN STOCK or not. Only reply i got was "If you cant wait then i'll refund your money"...so after about 2.5 weeks i just got a refund....

i have been following this thread to see if/when anyone actually got thier set.

I figured that with my luck, as soon as i cancelled they would ship. But that does not seem to be the case, and dude has sold like 20-30 sets since then.....pretty nice loan he's sitting on there..LOL

I am also an ebay seller, and i contacted them about his sales practice, and the reply i got was "Thank you for bringing this to our attention, this seller is in good standing, but due to numerous complaints currently on file, we will be auditing his potential violation of policy" ....that is not VERBATIM, but as best i can recall without looking it up..

good luck, hope you guys get your sets, fortunantly i already had a couple, and yest they are NICE!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/clap.gif.178cba2c538c68e720c727fcb024b19c.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/thumbsupwink.gif.129404938effda6ad9cca39e7f4b58a3.gif

 
I ordered a set from him, as there is NO WHERE else to get them shipped to Canada.

I'm not too concerned about when i get them, as long as its in the next month. I still need to get an amp and wire them up, which is alot of work in my civic.

If he is reported as fraud, where can i get them else where?

 
I ordered a set from him, as there is NO WHERE else to get them shipped to Canada.I'm not too concerned about when i get them, as long as its in the next month. I still need to get an amp and wire them up, which is alot of work in my civic.

If he is reported as fraud, where can i get them else where?

he's got a lot of sales.....it wont be reported as fraud, just violation of policy because he does not state in the auction that it IS IN fact a pre sale, and he has no **** idea when they will get to him....

yes, he will probably get them eventually and ship them as promised......but the when is the queston.

i just dont like it when people arent honest.....hell i woulda waited for mine and let him keep the funds, if he had just said it was going to be a few weeks....**** man..have some integrity!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

 
To the people who have RSDs:

Are they worth all the hassle of waiting a month to get them and most likely having to cut up my new car to install them?

I want good quality sound for a low price, but I'm starting to think I'd be better off just getting something more readily available and possibly something with a more shallow mounting depth (less than 2.5" would be good I think).

Does anything come close to the RSDs for around $100 new? Ill be running them with 70W each on a Kicker ZX200.2.

I found a good price on some Pioneer Rev TS-C160R comps. Are they comparable to the RSDs?

 
So I also ordered mine last month from him and still have not received mine...I checked sonicelectronix.com and they have them for 99.99 plus shipping but the availability says they are disconitnued...that could be a reason for y he doesn't have them...I guess he oversold but expected more to come in but probly can't get them kuz they could be discontinued...any ideas...im probly gonna ask for a refund and just get the MB Quarts PVF-216 which I actually heard and not just going by the great vine.

 
To the people who have RSDs:
Are they worth all the hassle of waiting a month to get them and most likely having to cut up my new car to install them?

I want good quality sound for a low price, but I'm starting to think I'd be better off just getting something more readily available and possibly something with a more shallow mounting depth (less than 2.5" would be good I think).

Does anything come close to the RSDs for around $100 new? Ill be running them with 70W each on a Kicker ZX200.2.

I found a good price on some Pioneer Rev TS-C160R comps. Are they comparable to the RSDs?
well...honestly, they are a great value for the money....but once again, quality of install makes a big diff, as does personal preference....

after owening them, installing them, tweaking them, YES....i do like em....especially when i think of the whole 87 dollars a set they cost me....

i think the cost to quality ratio is what was so originally spectacular about these comps.....but i HAVE heard some others that i like better....could have been the install tho???...you just never really know...

I"m not going to pretend i have heard all there is to hear, and the RSD's are all that and then some...

bottom line...they ARE good, and if you can get em for a bill or less, then they are a good buy.....but at this point it seems many are getting shafted when it is well known that PG isnt shipping these things out for at LEAST a couple of weeks....

 
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