Anything comparable to the DEX-P9?

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

It also has built-in Time Alignment that is adjustable up to 16 ft. in ~1/4" increments.

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

the h701 combined with the w200 is sweet. you can check out my review for details, https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5529.

the drz9255 is nice but very limited in terms of processing. 5 band peq, limited xover slopes and points. well not necessarily limited but not as flexible as say the p9 or h701.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

The DRZ9255 has built-in 4-way crossovers. You have to have both the DEX-P9 and the DEQ-P9 to have any kind of processing.

Ahhhh so I guess I missed that.

The Clarion is UGLY as all hell but what you get for the price is hard to beat. Especially (as you have pointed out) since you need to put almost 1600 dollars of Pioneer equiment. Equipment that only does a small bit more than the Clarion.

I'm putting the Clarion on the top of my list. Only thing I'll need is a good graphic eq (cause 5 bands of parametric eq is not enough to handle horns and a sub)

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

4 filters per channel? Sorry man. I don't understand what you mean by that or what you're trying to do. I know my way inside and out of the 701, but just don't grasp what you are asking.

4 way crossovers. In order to do a 3 way front stage and a sub you need to split each channel up into 4 parts to feed to the respective trandusers. You've got the tweeters (or horns in my case) midrange, midbass and the sub. You also have 2 channels so you must multiply everything by 2. Thats where I get 8 filters from. 4 filters per channel (4 way crossover) and 2 channels.

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Ahhhh so I guess I missed that.
The Clarion is UGLY as all hell but what you get for the price is hard to beat. Especially (as you have pointed out) since you need to put almost 1600 dollars of Pioneer equiment. Equipment that only does a small bit more than the Clarion.

I'm putting the Clarion on the top of my list. Only thing I'll need is a good graphic eq (cause 5 bands of parametric eq is not enough to handle horns and a sub)

Meh, I've seen the P9 combos go for like $1000 together on eGay. I'm pretty sure you can bring in an Alpine HU/H701 combo for around $1000 too.

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

My only problem with the 701 is that its so old now it should be selling for less money than Alpine wants for it.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eyebrow.gif.fe2c18d8720fe8c7eaed347b21ea05a5.gif

In every other consumer electronics market, after a product has been out for a year or two without a revision the price is lowered because the chips used inside are a generation (or more) behind the newest versions, and cost the manufacturer substancially less.

Oh well............

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Old doesn't necessarily mean out-of-date or obsolete though.. The DRZ9255 has been around quite some time, but it's still on a different realm compared to the gazillion other mainstream HU's out there.. In terms of sound quality, I'd take it's 7 year old cd-only technology over liquid-bio-whatever displays and USB/SD/bluetooth and all that craziness, anyday. Clean cd output doesn't go out of style. The old Denons and Den-fords are still kicking in the used market.. with NO processing except DA conversion and preamp.

But also, throw in the mix a couple new setups too.. Alpine's newer PXE-H650 coming out is supposed to be a processing beast as well.. However I think it's an analog only unit, for the OEM integration market.. So it's only as clean as that oem head unit can send it, or from the RCA's of an aftermarket. Also the MS-8 JBL unit sounds promising as well.. Seems trying to fight the good fight of sending the signal digitally to the processor is going bye bye, to be replaced by processing to clean up the OEM crap signal instead with one aftermarket box instead of a head unit, then a processor.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

the h701 combined with the w200 is sweet. you can check out my review for details, https://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5529.
the drz9255 is nice but very limited in terms of processing. 5 band peq, limited xover slopes and points. well not necessarily limited but not as flexible as say the p9 or h701.

Looking through the Clarion's manual, it seems that the X-over points available are quite numerous and selectable X-over slopes range from 0db to -18db per octave.

Thats pretty good for 800 dollars brand new.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

Meh, I've seen the P9 combos go for like $1000 together on eGay. I'm pretty sure you can bring in an Alpine HU/H701 combo for around $1000 too.

Well I will keep that in mind.

 

[Babs 10+ year member]

Also, remember it's not just processing that makes sound quality...

Reason a typical Mark Levinson, Krell, etc home 2-channel preamp is in the 5 figures and weighs as much as most A/V receivers. Sorry.. I babble. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif It's Friday.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

Also, remember it's not just processing that makes sound quality... Reason a typical Mark Levinson, Krell, etc home 2-channel preamp is in the 5 figures and weighs as much as most A/V receivers. Sorry.. I babble. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif It's Friday.

But also remember, these head units will be doing no speaker level amplification whatsoever. Massive torroids, caps and rails (like whats in those AV recievers that you mentioned) will be extreme over kill for what I want. I will be buying seperate boat anchors for amplification duty.

All that processing will be necessary to get everything working correctly. Burr-Brown oversampling DACs and copper chassis' wont mean a dam thing if you don't have your system set up correctly.

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[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

Alpine DVA-9860

Alpine PXA-H701

$675 shipped for the pair

Clarion DRZ9255

$640 shipped

Couldn't find any P9 combos today. They float around every now and then.

 

[JonJT 10+ year member]

Alpine DVA-9860
Alpine PXA-H701

$675 shipped for the pair

Clarion DRZ9255

$640 shipped

Couldn't find any P9 combos today. They float around every now and then.

Alright well I have a bunch of options then. I will keep an eye out until I'm ready to purchase.

 

[2kchevy06civic 5,000+ posts]

I think they are all great units it just really comes down to budget and how much money you are willing to shell. Also keep in mind it's a lot easier to find the h701 and controller were as it's very difficult to find a p9 combo for a decent price. You can also find the drz-9255 very easily as well.

the h701 can do 3-way plus a sub you just use the rear outputs for the midbass if that's what you were wanting to do.

I have this issue in my stash of ca mags but for those who don't, this is a good read. Excellent review on it.

http://www.caraudiomag.com/testreports/0112cae_pioneer_premier_dexp9_deqp9_car_audio_head_unit/

 

[Hintzyboy 5,000+ posts]

If you really want to lay down some cash, you can always get into the Alpine F#1 Status stuff too.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

 

[alphakenny1 10+ year member]

Looking through the Clarion's manual, it seems that the X-over points available are quite numerous and selectable X-over slopes range from 0db to -18db per octave.
Thats pretty good for 800 dollars brand new.

as i said, didn't mean limited but not as flexible as the h701 combo. the lowest you can hp your midrange is 200hz, while all outputs of except for the tweeter output can go all the way down to 20hz. also the highest crossover slope the drz9255 can go is 18db/oct while h701 can go up to 30db/oct. i have almost all my crossover settings set at 24db/oct. you might think its all that big of a deal, but to me it actually is. having flexbility is probably most important to me. also the h701 has a better option as far as eq goes. 31 band l/r eq + 10 band graphic eq on sub or an option of 7 band peq l/r. while drz9255 just has a 5 band peq. plus the let's say you get a w200/h701 combo you can run digital signal to your processor which will almost ensure a noise free system. the drz9255, you will have to run analog and possibly run into some noise issues.