anyone know bout Audio Legion?

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Id buy it if i knew they where good. im not opposed to that. i hope they do great and get a big customer base. im sure they use good parts but if your useing hte same board as the sundown and getting substantially more power its going to cost much much more to produce.

for example the cheap IR transistors in a 1500 watt boards are 1$ or so.. a high-end toshiba transistor capible of putting out 50 watts more per unit is 4-6 bucks. that adds up quick

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

At this point I think SD boards are pretty exclusive. The ampere 3800 is actually just a saz3500 v1 iirc and those are what, 6 years old?..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

Well the ts will do 4.7-4.8k below 1%, I'd say that's pretty acceptable.

yea but benching them is one thing actually seeing hte distortion vs noise etc. is another and when you have these very low ohm loads and high current application dampening factor is very important. the yester year of 200 was more than enough didn't account for having 50 volts and 80 amps of output capability with inductance figures 6x greater than the yester-year applications.

im not knocking the amp or the brand. but i will say if they are using much better parts and the price is that great somethingisnt adding up..

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

At this point I think SD boards are pretty exclusive. The ampere 3800 is actually just a saz3500 v1 iirc and those are what, 6 years old?..

that just it you pay for something that is outstanding unique and the excellent customer service. not only that sundown has grown. the employ more people pay more taxes etc etc..

 

[Popwarhomie 5,000+ posts]

Team mate just ordered the 8500 today. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

We'll find out quality and longevity pretty quickly I think. Quite a few people are planning .33 or .5 loads with these. We'll see if the magic dragon shows up.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

Made in south korea! People should just keep to themselves when they can't help the OP with correct info. People are on here for help not guesses

Oh, well Korean built but the same 20 year old class D circuit that everyone else uses makes it amazing. Carry on then. This sort of thing has NEVER gone badly in the past, right?

My advice is if you need to buy cookie cutter far East amps, pay a little more for an established brand. You KNOW what you're getting and you KNOW you'll get customer support if something goes wrong.

 

[jersyn82]

Oh, well Korean built but the same 20 year old class D circuit that everyone else uses makes it amazing. Carry on then. This sort of thing has NEVER gone badly in the past, right?
My advice is if you need to buy cookie cutter far East amps, pay a little more for an established brand. You KNOW what you're getting and you KNOW you'll get customer support if something goes wrong.

Oh ok and those brands never had to start out right? If they were crap when they started they wouldn't still be here. Almost every company is going to start lower priced but once people find out if they are good and they last they will go up. Over 4000w for 600 if that's cookie cutter I'm hungry....got any milk?

 

[SounDrive Pro Seller]

The AL use the same open tool boards that many other "reputable" amps use and the AL have upgraded caps and fets compared to the stock versions.

Changing how the board looks isn't going to change performance for the most part.

These are literally the same as many other brands but some people that have nothing better to do always come around to bash them, because they buy in larger quantities and are cheaper.

 

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Oh, well Korean built but the same 20 year old class D circuit that everyone else uses makes it amazing. Carry on then. This sort of thing has NEVER gone badly in the past, right?
My advice is if you need to buy cookie cutter far East amps, pay a little more for an established brand. You KNOW what you're getting and you KNOW you'll get customer support if something goes wrong.

Pay more for the same thing, makes sense.

 

[SounDrive Pro Seller]

We'll find out quality and longevity pretty quickly I think. Quite a few people are planning .33 or .5 loads with these. We'll see if the magic dragon shows up.

Several people already use the FSD with weaker fets at .5 with success. I think they've proven themselves by now honestly. I think a lot of people are hesitant simply because of price

 

[bigblackdodge]

Mine will be in Wednesday next week. If anyone would like, I'll open it up for some close ups of the guts in my 3500 if you would like. I bought it BC of the dyno numbers and price. If it holds up a year i'll be happy and if it last 2 years ill be stoked. Also it says its not .5 stable. my ohm load will be 1ohm.

 

[kr15 5,000+ posts]

I just remember people saying the same thing about twisted and ampere a few years back...and crescendo before that...not everyone will become a diablo or ct sounds.

 

[SounDrive Pro Seller]

I just remember people saying the same thing about twisted and ampere a few years back...and crescendo before that...not everyone will become a diablo or ct sounds.

Exactly, and given the track record of the buildhouse + the upgraded fets, I don't see them giving any issues. Upgraded fets and caps literally put them on par with the best Korean amps, I'm not sure what magical BS everyone thinks other companies use lol.

 

[hispls 5,000+ posts]

The AL use the same open tool boards that many other "reputable" amps use and the AL have upgraded caps and fets compared to the stock versions.
Changing how the board looks isn't going to change performance for the most part.

These are literally the same as many other brands but some people that have nothing better to do always come around to bash them, because they buy in larger quantities and are cheaper.

 

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Pay more for the same thing, makes sense.

So the reason these are cheaper is because they're buying in larger quantities than Sundown? American Bass?

Thinking you're going to get something for nothing.... makes sense. This isn't like buying an off--the-shelf subwoofer where if it breaks you can source parts anywhere and repair it yourself for 70$. A "3500W" amp breaks and you're out 100$ just for round trip shipping to get it repaired.

Oh ok and those brands never had to start out right? If they were crap when they started they wouldn't still be here. Almost every company is going to start lower priced but once people find out if they are good and they last they will go up. Over 4000w for 600 if that's cookie cutter I'm hungry....got any milk?

A lot of "brands" had to start out that are now long gone too.

I just remember people saying the same thing about twisted and ampere a few years back...and crescendo before that...not everyone will become a diablo or ct sounds.

Just so long as we realize that there ARE Diablo, CT, RD 3250V2 Popcorn, etc. situations. One bad component in the batch and half of these amps break out of the box then where is a startup company? Such a situation put RD out of business (and they were relatively well established) and a lot of people got stiffed. How about when people start blowing up amps through abuse and claiming on warranty? How many of those can they eat before the legit claims cannot be honored?

There's a reason that the brands that stick around price where they do.

Buying a "new brand" of amp is risky, but everyone always wants to believe they'll get something for nothing or be first on the new bandwagon. Good luck, guys. I won't mess with the coupon price "new" amps and I think I've explained well enough why.

 

[Massive spl]

Love how hispl talks his as$ off but yet he doesn't own a AL 3500 or has he used a AL 3500... Bro get off your high horse and talking down on a amp any that you have never used.