Any high end deck users in here???

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

the best deck like one of these..........

what does THESE mean.

Nevermind man, just drop it.......I made my point about Xovers and I don't feel like debating anymore. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[Bavarian3 10+ year member]

u failed to prove a point, give it up. the only advantage external has over the internal is that u can have a more precise crossover point. u just keep saying that its better quality, but not giving reasons to back it up, its like saying im better than u are.

 

[adam71 5,000+ posts]

u failed to prove a point, give it up. the only advantage external has over the internal is that u can have a more precise crossover point. u just keep saying that its better quality, but not giving reasons to back it up, its like saying im better than u are.

You don't have to take my word for it.......do some asking around and find out for yourself. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/spank.gif.0d78e34d42ea8780359e903aeb6697d6.gif

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Well, IMHO...the eclipse 8053 is one of the best SQ wise w/o using an external EQ or processor! So there...peace

NG

 

[Bavarian3 10+ year member]

You don't have to take my word for it.......do some asking around and find out for yourself. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/spank.gif.0d78e34d42ea8780359e903aeb6697d6.gif

ok fine, so they are better quality.....define better quality? because i am confusing on what point u are trying to make here. Its like saying well this zapco amp has better quality components than this profile amp so its going to sound better than the profile...

i agree that u get a more precise tuning with external, but other than that i fail to see what else is better, and u have failed to tell me.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

whats the most expensive HU brand, u can say exotic, and not many people tend to have it ?? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gifand

According to the CA&E guide, the McIntosh MX406 has an MSRP of $900. The Nakamichi CD-700II will run you around $1300 IIRC. The Denon Z1 will run you close to $2000 here in the states. Then ofcourse you have the Alpine F#1 status CD player, which retails for $2400 and then the accompanying H990 processor for $2600 gives you a total of for the combo $5000 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

Well, IMHO...the eclipse 8053 is one of the best SQ wise w/o using an external EQ or processor! So there...peace
NG

Have you actually heard any of the high end Denon, Nakamichi's or McIntosh's the the adam originally asked about?

 

[BASS OUTLAW 10+ year member]

According to the CA&E guide, the McIntosh MX406 has an MSRP of $900. The Nakamichi CD-700II will run you around $1300 IIRC. The Denon Z1 will run you close to $2000 here in the states. Then ofcourse you have the Alpine F#1 status CD player, which retails for $2400 and then the accompanying H990 processor for $2600 gives you a total of for the combo $5000 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

holly sheit, u shoudnt have told me with that prices, 1 HU is double my system cost //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crying.gif.ec0ebefe590df0251476573bc49e46d8.gif

well well , i should not dream about it then , ( well i didnt from the begining)

and hey , 6V is the highest pre amp output , or there is 7v and so ??

PS: adam , and bav , most thanks guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

and hey , 6V is the highest pre amp output , or there is 7v and so ??

Eclipse has 8V outputs, and if you run them as balanced out then you get 16V //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

But preout voltage isn't the main thing to look for in a HU.

 

[BASS OUTLAW 10+ year member]

Eclipse has 8V outputs, and if you run them as balanced out then you get 16V //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif
But preout voltage isn't the main thing to look for in a HU.

all eclips brands got 8v ??

and hey , fill me in with some of the main things u look for in HU //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif (if u dont mind )

 

[Bavarian3 10+ year member]

all eclips brands got 8v ??
and hey , fill me in with some of the main things u look for in HU //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif (if u dont mind )

depends on what u need, crossovers, EQ, mp3/wma if thats what u want, preout voltage for example eclipse 8053 or the new 8454 has 8 volts so the gains on the amplifier dont have to go very high, result is just cleaner signal, time correction is another great feature in a receiver, other than that most decks will do the same job.

Stick with Alpine, Eclipse, Pioneer, Denon, Clarion and u cant go wrong. nakamichi reuglar models have some serious reilability problems from what ive heard, sony is crap of course, kenwood and panasonic are eh......ok i guess. just stick with the above brands.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

so the gains on the amplifier dont have to go very high, may result in cleaner output

^^^ Changed your statement //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif There is no guaranty that you will hear the difference in gain settings, and really most people not well acquainted with true SQ systems propably wouldn't be able to tell a difference unless you have a crappy amp that gets real noisy with a high gain setting.

 

[JLCivic 10+ year member]

all eclips brands got 8v ??
and hey , fill me in with some of the main things u look for in HU //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif (if u dont mind )

Not all Eclipse models have 8V pre outs. They have 3 different series:

3 series: 2.7V/300 ohm pre outs

5 series: 5V/55 ohm pre outs

8 series: 8V/55 ohm pre outs

I have owned several brands over the years(pioneer, alpine, kenwood, clarion, 4 Eclipses, and my current deck, the RF 8250).

Up until purchasing the 8250, the Eclipses were my favorite. I simply think they sounded better than all the other decks I had owned.

Now, as to what makes a deck SOUND better than another....that can be debated.

I have seen posts from people who go by specs alone(s/n ratio which, imo, is an utterly useless spec on a cd player).

I think a deck can sound better due to:

quality of the pre outs

dacs used

quality of the overall design of the deck

quality of parts used in the deck.

I trust my ears. If I like the sound of deck A over deck B, for example, the specs are irrelevant.

 

[BASS OUTLAW 10+ year member]

well what can i say , thanks all for nice info //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif ( am stickin with the pioneer)

 

[InstalledStereo]

I have an Alpine CDA 7897 in with original box and all the stuff still with me. Anybody want to purchase it? Hehehe. I'm new here, just read the thread above and learned alot of new brands. I hope I can learn alot more here.