Amps for SQ

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

gee i thought a regulated power supply kept that stuff in check not a power back offer lol

yea, but the amp will heat up at 2 ohms, and back the power off to avoid shutting off.

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

http://www.carsound.com/review_archive/amps/jl_5001.html
According to carsound it output virtually identical power into both impedances. But technically, it did output more power into 2ohms. Not a difference worth mentioning...but more none-the-less

dont ever quote magazines. ever notice that they hardly ever have anything good to say about a company that doesnt have a full page advertisment in their magazine?

 

[seg_representin 10+ year member]

Hifonics Brutus Bxi 606 or the Hifonics Titan 6006...i have the titan. I like the output it gives. 600 rms at 4 ohms bridged. Very nice amp i recommend it.

 

[SQChevy 10+ year member]

I do know that the JL 1000/1 will work well. I have run it on 4 10W6AE's, 2 15W0's, 2 Focal Access 40A's and it's worked like a champ and made incredible sound. I even had people ask if I had ported 12's when my 4 10's hit. It was pretty incredible.

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

dont ever quote magazines. ever notice that they hardly ever have anything good to say about a company that doesnt have a full page advertisment in their magazine?

Unless you can prove any imperical evidence to the contrary, I see no reason why it can't be quoted.

So, lets see those test results from someone well respected within the industry, using proper testing equipment and procedures...such as the above test report I linked.

What's that? You don't have one?

 

[johnecon2001 5,000+ posts]

I see this turning into another thread were brian gets spanked into submission and leaves once he is fully embarrassed.

Why do you do this to yourself bro? Use the edit button!

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

dont ever quote magazines. ever notice that they hardly ever have anything good to say about a company that doesnt have a full page advertisment in their magazine?

JL Audio 500/1 Specs

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Price & Contact: Call for pricing; Tel: 954-443-1100, Web:

www.jlaudio.comAll measurements @ 14 volts unless otherwise specified.

Frequency Response (4-ohm IHF Load, 60 Hz Ref., crossover disabled): +.0dB, -3 dB @ 530 Hz

L/R channel error max deviation 20 Hz to 20 kHz: N/A

Signal-to-Noise Ratio (Below Rated Output, “A” weighted): -108.4 dB

Distortion at Rated Output @ 60 Hz: 0.17% THD+N @ 500 watts into 2 ohms

Output Power (Resistive) (4 ohms @ 60 Hz to 1% THD+N): 605 watts @ 14 volts; 601 watts @ 12.8 volts; 591 watts @ 10.5 volts

Output Power (Resistive) (2 ohms @ 60 Hz to 1% THD+N): 620 watts @ 14 volts; 604 watts @ 12.8 volts; 598 watts @ 10.5 volts

Output Power (Reactive) (4-ohm IHF Load @ 60 Hz to 1% THD+N): 639 watts

Output Power (Reactive) (2-ohm IHF Load @ 60 Hz to 1% THD+N): 733 watts

Crosstalk @rated output, 20 Hz to 20 kHz: N/A

Damping Factor, 2 ohms @ 50 Hz: 225

Voltage for Rated Output: 72mV to 8.3 volts

Idle Current Draw: 1 amp

Current Draw @ 1/3 Maximum Power: 26 amps @ 206.3 watts

Efficiency @ 1/3 Maximum Power: 57%

Power-Up Noise: 19.9 dB SPL

Power-Down Noise: 37.2 dB SPL

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//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif btw Mansville Smith of JL Audio is a member of CS and I wager to say he'd say the same things

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

coming from a guy that tossed both of his 500/1's to the side, i can tell you that after a few minutes of running those amps hard at 2 ohms, that the power is decreased. they will never shut off because they reduce the power to avoid it. end of story. i guess all of you have had the time to really test them, so you would probably know best. a simple quick bench test wont tell you the full story. you need to really test them with all variables to get honest results. sorry JL fooled you all.

 

[phyphoestilic 5,000+ posts]

"In pure audiophile terms, I doubt that you could do better than the 300/2"
- Robert Zeff

^^^ ever heard of him bri?? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

guess who designed the Arc Audio SE series?

http://www.arcaudio.com/arc-05/amplifiers.htm

Bottom right corner

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

zapco is far superior to JL..

no its not. and you cant prove it either, and i cant prove jls better so. lets just not make comments like that anymore ok? thanks again.

 

[FoxPro5 5,000+ posts]

guess who designed the Arc Audio SE series?
http://www.arcaudio.com/arc-05/amplifiers.htm

Bottom right corner

Right...what I like about that statement is the 'to date' part. Makes you wonder what else that guy has coming down the pipeline. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/naughty.gif.94359f346c0f1259df8038d60b41863e.gif

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

coming from a guy that tossed both of his 500/1's to the side, i can tell you that after a few minutes of running those amps hard at 2 ohms, that the power is decreased. they will never shut off because they reduce the power to avoid it. end of story. i guess all of you have had the time to really test them, so you would probably know best. a simple quick bench test wont tell you the full story. you need to really test them with all variables to get honest results. sorry JL fooled you all.

So what you are saying is that you drove the amplifier to the point that the protection circuitry kicked on. I hardly see how that proves anything other than you abused the amplifier, then got upset because instead of shutting off due to thermal protection (like other amps) the JL amplifier rolled back the power. So, it functioned exactly how it was supposed to, and this makes you unhappy for some unknown reason. Yeah, makes total sense to me now... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

You stated that the amplifier output less power into a 2ohm load. We provided evidence to the contrary, thus proving you wrong. It is fully capable of delivering the same amount of power into a 2ohm load that it does into a 4ohm load.

Sorry that you don't know how to use your equipment.

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

no its not. and you cant prove it either, and i cant prove jls better so. lets just not make comments like that anymore ok? thanks again.

so you are saying the slashes are on par with the c2k's? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/waycrazy.gif.f4a380c3f94043939fd369defd9e6be2.gif

 

[azbass 5,000+ posts]

so you are saying the slashes are on par with the c2k's? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/waycrazy.gif.f4a380c3f94043939fd369defd9e6be2.gif

no actually i didnt say anything about slashes or c2ks. so i dont know what to say about that.

 

[bri487 5,000+ posts]

1. So what you are saying is that you drove the amplifier to the point that the protection circuitry kicked on. I hardly see how that proves anything other than you abused the amplifier, then got upset because instead of shutting off due to thermal protection (like other amps) the JL amplifier rolled back the power. So, it functioned exactly how it was supposed to, and this makes you unhappy for some unknown reason. Yeah, makes total sense to me now... //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif

2. You stated that the amplifier output less power into a 2ohm load. We provided evidence to the contrary, thus proving you wrong. It is fully capable of delivering the same amount of power into a 2ohm load that it does into a 4ohm load.

1. yes, that is what it did because it makes more heat at 2 ohms which causes the amp to heat up much faster than it does at 4 ohms, resulting in the amplifier reducing its output to avoid shutting off because after all, JL says it will operate at that ohm. i never said it drastically cuts back, but consistantly it will put out more at 4 ohms, where periodically it will put out more at 2 ohms, but that is kind of like you in bed. those two seconds are great huh?

2. you repeated yourself again. and yet my reply is the same.