Rangerman, I gotta call you out on this one. I don't think the Profile amps are a waste of money. They aren't the best amp or even close, but they aren't that bad, probably about the same line as sony. Hey I had the 600 SX (i think that is it) pushing two 8" kicker comps a few years ago, and I put several larger systems to shame, and I was under powering the subs by about 100wrms a piece. Now, I don't mean for everyone to go out and buy them, because there are better choices, but for the price and for a begginner, it isn't exactly a bad deal. I even sold my profile for $100, I only paid 185 on the net. I never had a problem with it, and it's been almost 4 years, and the amp is still good as new.