alright photoshop guys...

Strecker25
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i am a complete N0000000b when it comes to doing actual work in photoshop.

My question is what do you use, and what are some tricks to getting a very close (not visible) crop line on objects? im aware of the zoom in on the image and i see some people use the pen tool. what about you?

 
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the magnetic trace seems to get a good edge on lines, but how do i take that crop and cut it out from there?

im reading tutorials btw, so ill be learning slowly. thanks guys

 
not the magnetic lasso - if you want good crop lines, you need to do it by hand.

get the polygonal lasso, and make small selections very slowly.

if you accidentially double click and select it, hold SHIFT (notice the little + on the tool) and start making your selection. once you click for the first time (with this particular tool) you can release shift, and continue with your selection mayhem.

ALT, conversly, does the opposite and will subtract from the existing selection (again, see the - sign?)

all the selection tools work this way. with the MARQUEE tools (square, circle, bla bla bla) you can hold ALT, and click, and the tool will select via the CENTER of the tool, and expand out, if you hold shift whie using these tools, it makes them constrain to a perfect square\circle. combos of ALT+SHIFT are quite handy sometimes.

most every tool can be used in conjunction with ALT\SHIFT. play around, see what they all do. its quite fun //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

but i do all my selections (cutting people, cars ect) out by hand. unless its some smooth\curvy shape, i dont use the pen tool. but i do all my comics\cartoons\drawings with vector based photoshop tools (ie, pen+shape)

i love photoshop.

and remember kids - USE LAYERS!

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MAGIC WAND IS ONLY GOOD FOR REALLY HIGH RESOLUTION PICTURES, HACK AND SLASH, OR NON-ANTIALIASED IMAGES!!!

or you really know what you are doing. trust me, the magnetic lasso and the wand are some of the biggest wastes of time in photoshop.

 
not the magnetic lasso - if you want good crop lines, you need to do it by hand.
get the polygonal lasso, and make small selections very slowly.

if you accidentially double click and select it, hold SHIFT (notice the little + on the tool) and start making your selection. once you click for the first time (with this particular tool) you can release shift, and continue with your selection mayhem.

ALT, conversly, does the opposite and will subtract from the existing selection (again, see the - sign?)

all the selection tools work this way. with the MARQUEE tools (square, circle, bla bla bla) you can hold ALT, and click, and the tool will select via the CENTER of the tool, and expand out, if you hold shift whie using these tools, it makes them constrain to a perfect square\circle. combos of ALT+SHIFT are quite handy sometimes.

most every tool can be used in conjunction with ALT\SHIFT. play around, see what they all do. its quite fun //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

but i do all my selections (cutting people, cars ect) out by hand. unless its some smooth\curvy shape, i dont use the pen tool. but i do all my comics\cartoons\drawings with vector based photoshop tools (ie, pen+shape)

i love photoshop.

and remember kids - USE LAYERS!

//edit

MAGIC WAND IS ONLY GOOD FOR REALLY HIGH RESOLUTION PICTURES, HACK AND SLASH, OR NON-ANTIALIASED IMAGES!!!

or you really know what you are doing. trust me, the magnetic lasso and the wand are some of the biggest wastes of time in photoshop.
All tools in photoshop take some learning to make them useful. A person learning to use photoshop needs to do all the tutorials on the CD's and make it to adobe.com and try some online stuff as well. Personal workflow will determine what works best. For me, marquee shapes and the magic lasso are speedy and accurate enough for most jobs.

To answer your question of what to do once you have and object selected, an unlisted feature is control+J It will paste the selected object to a new layer. To re-select an object, if you need to, is CTRL+A for select all and then V for move, then an up arrow and down arrow. That will bring the outline back around an object.

req,

for vector based projects, Illustrator is a vector based app and has a much richer toolset, it even now incorporates some of older adobe streamline features for creating outlines from images. toonboom is king of cartoons. I've lost touch with the app, I'm from version 1.0 and 2.0. Lost touch meaning I'm old school, PS2.0 and up, Illustrator 3(?), Quark, Alias PowerAnimator LII certified, Quark, all Quantel broadcast products...that kinda crap. Now, off to the TV station to pick up the wife.

BTW someone try to scan in MONEY with Photoshop CS. I hear it won't do it!!!

 
All tools in photoshop take some learning to make them useful. A person learning to use photoshop needs to do all the tutorials on the CD's and make it to adobe.com and try some online stuff as well. Personal workflow will determine what works best. For me, marquee shapes and the magic lasso are speedy and accurate enough for most jobs.
To answer your question of what to do once you have and object selected, an unlisted feature is control+J It will paste the selected object to a new layer. To re-select an object, if you need to, is CTRL+A for select all and then V for move, then an up arrow and down arrow. That will bring the outline back around an object.

req,

for vector based projects, Illustrator is a vector based app and has a much richer toolset, it even now incorporates some of older adobe streamline features for creating outlines from images. toonboom is king of cartoons. I've lost touch with the app, I'm from version 1.0 and 2.0. Lost touch meaning I'm old school, PS2.0 and up, Illustrator 3(?), Quark, Alias PowerAnimator LII certified, Quark, all Quantel broadcast products...that kinda crap. Now, off to the TV station to pick up the wife.

BTW someone try to scan in MONEY with Photoshop CS. I hear it won't do it!!!
i know illustrator does, but i hate the way its layed out. i absoultly loathe working in the workspace they provide. its so different to photoshop - like they want it to be indesign or somthing. im just not a fan at how everything is setup. i dont like the feel of it. but i totally agree. it is much better for vector based art.

ive never heard of toonboom. but then again, ive never looked around for any such program.

i did like a program called ... ah fu
it was a sweet application.


 
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