Ae Av?

[ParaTrooper1987 10+ year member]

any one been running these for a long period of time? if so howd it go and how much power? also box size?

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[T3mpest 10+ year member]

any one been running these for a long period of time? if so howd it go and how much power? also box size?

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=416315&highlight=av12x&page=17

Other than that bumpin buick used one in the 15 challenge for pure SPL, it did stupidly well for a SQ oriented woofer, beating out alot of subs SPL oriented companies offerings. They seem to model pretty well in small boxes and power handing, from most accounts is very good. I've heard of some people bottoming them out and having issues when ported, but that's really a function of a bad system design, not the sub.

 

[ParaTrooper1987 10+ year member]

yeah i've seen a few people having issues ported, that's why im asking.

 

[skmfkr 5,000+ posts]

i had one back in like 05, so im guessing your talking about the newer ones, but 2cubes at 35hz 40square inches of port area and 1kw should be good.

 

[ParaTrooper1987 10+ year member]

well people have used them in recommended ported box's with 1kw and had issues, this is why i'm checking to see if any one else has had problems or success with them?

 

[Papermaker85 5,000+ posts]

i liked mine, it was just way too peaky.

if you do port it id do around 2-2.25 tuned to 28..

btw i used 2.8 tuned to 31 and 3.5 tuned 32..

i had a bit much port area.. ideally with 1kw 1 6"areo is enough..

 

[Koon 10+ year member]

I'm surprised these haven't become more popular than they are. I haven't seen someone bring up the AV name in months.

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

I had an older one for about 5 years or more and had it running 1kw fine in a transmission line enclosure. It effortlessly played from 17-70hz flat within 2 dB and was pretty loud. It's currently still alive today in my friend's car getting about 250rms and sounds **** good.

 

[ThatChevyGuy 5,000+ posts]

go sealed, it drops low and flat as hell

 

[bass_lover1 10+ year member]

I'm surprised these haven't become more popular than they are. I haven't seen someone bring up the AV name in months.

I've heard rumors that some people were waiting for a month before their drivers arrived.

That could have something to do with it.

 

[kendogg 10+ year member]

I've heard rumors that some people were waiting for a month before their drivers arrived.
That could have something to do with it.

More than one month. It took papermaker over 2 months to get his replaced under warranty, along with many, many others. Bottom line - stay away. The old ones may have been great, but if you want a driver you won't have to worry about dealing with warrantee problems with (regardless of reason, driver defect, waiting 2+ months for replacement, being told everything else about your system is at fault....) look elsewhere. Even if, have you looked at the lsit of reasons on the AE website of why you may be denied warrantee coverage??

 

[Immacomputer 10+ year member]

That's too bad about return times. I had to return mine when I first got it and John had another one shipped to me before mine reached him. I'm pretty sure it was less than 5 days after contacting him that I got a new one at my door.

 

[madmaxz 10+ year member]

what size sealed enclosure for a 12" x or h

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

More than one month. It took papermaker over 2 months to get his replaced under warranty, along with many, many others. Bottom line - stay away. The old ones may have been great, but if you want a driver you won't have to worry about dealing with warrantee problems with (regardless of reason, driver defect, waiting 2+ months for replacement, being told everything else about your system is at fault....) look elsewhere. Even if, have you looked at the lsit of reasons on the AE website of why you may be denied warrantee coverage??

I agree on the timing issues. John pretty much runs the shop by himself so overhead is an issue. He literally only builds woofers once they are ordered so the turn around time isn't super short. I also dont' see what your issue is with the warranty? Looks like it doesn't cover anything except manufacturing defects, but I can't think of any companies who would cover a torn surround, burnt coils or wear and tear from the elements. Anyway I'll be getting 2 12's in the next month or two so I'll post a review when I do.

 

[bose301s 5,000+ posts]

John just sent me one to test, I have it in a 1 cube box before displacement. I haven't had a lot of time on it yet, but is a great woofer so far and VERY well built, basically a tank. I have an SSA Icon motor sitting here, the AV dwarfs it, plus it it more solid. Also, the Lambda design is awesome. I have it on a 850 watt amp now, the Le on the thing is so low it reveled hiss from my Sundown SAE-1000D that you wouldn't notice on any other sub on the market. This sub, if it lives up to everything under usage just may be about the best SQ drive out there, plus still quite loud.