wow, tough crowd and i guess you are right, as for the manning comparision, but i was not trying to compare to him on a side by side level, just using it to get my point out there. As for me and mike and what we are doing, well this is not the first time that me and mike spoke about this, its not like we have never had conversation in regards to the situation since mike ordered, we have talked about 5 times, and when last informed , mike was waiting for new models, as for a refund mike was offered, ask him! guys its not like we took mike's money and we are about to exit stage left and stick him with it! not the case at all, we had a model change guys and it led to product shortages that we did not see, thats where we are wrong, but please understand, we are not out to take anyones money and just leave them out there, I guess what iam trying to say is that we have built a consistant line of products for a while now! our products are in a good amount of stores! and every other model that we manufacture is shipping, your talking about 11 other models, we are just not shipping amps! and we are not even taking pre orders on them! I think you guys can see that we are not a internet based sales company that even take pre orders! well again i know that mike has a strong team and I would not want to see my friend get beat either so that i can understand, but just dont go over the edge guys! theres alot of stuff being said that is way out of control and simply not needed! Me and Mike will work through it one way or another and i know that he respects each and everyones help but guys please think about what some of your are typing on a viewable webiste, iam not talking about the guys that are posting thier thoughts, iam talking about the guys that are posting things that they want to do to cause us business interruption, guys talking about calling our phone lines from work , or talking about email bombs and stuff like that, what iam trying to say is, thats uncalled for! as for the forum we are not contesting the power of it, but we are saying please dont cross the line, the forum is for posting thoughts, not for stating actions that you want to perform in a negitive mannor. I understand that its super easy to get caught up into the situation but please understand its mike and Elevation Audio that has a dealing, good or bad, so please dont do anything that you can be held accountable for, we are asking in the nicest possible way and please note above all, we are working to correct it, if we were not then thats a different story and iam sure mike nor me want anything or anyone to get in the way of us correcting this in a professional mannor. Well thanks again guys for taking the time to read this i hope some of your understand were iam coming from, thanks
Joe
Elevation Audio