A New big boy amp coming to the market????

[gotparts90 10+ year member]

F that this is what the hell im talkin bout

FAP FAP FAP

 

[smd4life 5,000+ posts]

dB-r is supposed to be doing the warranty service on these when they become availible in the US, however, though I have spoken with Soundigital I have not requested an amp to test, have only agreed to do the repair work once they start selling in the US so I cannot add anything here about the design or the parts, or the PCB's used.
I can add however, that not everyone needs a mains power supply AC to DC to test large amplifiers, some batteries may be required, but lots of high output alternators and a built gasoline engine help generate the voltage and current necessary see image below:

fvck yeah...small block

 

[murilo 10+ year member]

Im interested in this, id like to see some of the SD amps used in a more daily fashion since i have seen they are claimed to beable to do so.
plus..if i could pick them up local //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

You live in Winnipeg? I´m moving to there in about 1 month, then if you wish you can see some models in daily setups, you can bring your own setup and we strap any model you want.

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

I'm not trying to bash the company or anything but I know somebody who bought 2 of their 8k's and when they arrived they had hardly any packaging and were busted. The company said that they would give him 2 brand new one's and pay (I think) 1/2 the shipping costs to return the broken one's back. They sent him out another 2 and they also both arrived busted. I don't know if they're just getting busted through shipping or maybe it's a bad batch. The power results on termpro are pretty impressive and I heard that the 8k's are the size of my 2k6d.

I've had things sent back and forth from central america, if people think FedEX and UPS is bad here... they've never delt with latin shippers.

 

[Twistid 5,000+ posts]

Hello my friend, sorry, I think I did understand wrong, can you explain better for me?

He means you should make a "Cheater amp" , that is rated to do low wattage, but actually does more //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

Hello my friend, sorry, I think I did understand wrong, can you explain better for me?

USACi uses the 4 ohm rating on an amp, except for StreetBeat. A favorable amp for all classes of USACi is the ability to function at low impedance levels. In my particular stock class, I look for an amp that isn't rated at over 1800 watts a 4 ohms that can run at .33 or .25 ohms that really makes its power at 12.5 volts. Other classes can run higher voltages and can use unlimited batteries and their focus on amps change slightly. The same thing with other orgs. MECA and dbDrag competitors have other focuses on their setups.

So, for USACi if the amp divides down it's power evenly from 8k to 2k@4ohms, it's still out of my class which tops at 1800 watts. If it is protested and has to be tested, from what you have stated, the rating may be even higher.

 

[murilo 10+ year member]

USACi uses the 4 ohm rating on an amp, except for StreetBeat. A favorable amp for all classes of USACi is the ability to function at low impedance levels. In my particular stock class, I look for an amp that isn't rated at over 1800 watts a 4 ohms that can run at .33 or .25 ohms that really makes its power at 12.5 volts. Other classes can run higher voltages and can use unlimited batteries and their focus on amps change slightly. The same thing with other orgs. MECA and dbDrag competitors have other focuses on their setups.So, for USACi if the amp divides down it's power evenly from 8k to 2k@4ohms, it's still out of my class which tops at 1800 watts. If it is protested and has to be tested, from what you have stated, the rating may be even higher.

Yes dj, SD8000 in 12,6V gives more than 4kW in 4 ohms, and I think the other amplifiers gives high power as well, so if they are been used in these classes seems that maybe the people like to keep the eyes closed.

 

[DUMPED 10+ year member]

He means you should make a "Cheater amp" , that is rated to do low wattage, but actually does more //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

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he just couldnt come out and say it..lol

hopefully a company doesnt do that for the sole purpose of competing in a single

organization..that would be pretty sad

 

[murilo 10+ year member]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gifhe just couldnt come out and say it..lol

hopefully a company doesnt do that for the sole purpose of competing in a single

organization..that would be pretty sad

There is no need to do that, in fact we are proud to give a lot of power in 4 ohms, hehe. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gifhe just couldnt come out and say it..lol

hopefully a company doesnt do that for the sole purpose of competing in a single

organization..that would be pretty sad

This kind of thing is exactly what killed the power class divisions in IASCA in the mid to late 90s. I honestly think that any competition organization, especially one in which power makes a real difference in the results, that decides what is "fair" competition based on rated not real power is inherently broken. Only way to get a level playing field is by using a real control of some sort. Something like a control fuse for each class is really the only way to make it fair.

 

[murilo 10+ year member]

This kind of thing is exactly what killed the power class divisions in IASCA in the mid to late 90s. I honestly think that any competition organization, especially one in which power makes a real difference in the results, that decides what is "fair" competition based on rated not real power is inherently broken. Only way to get a level playing field is by using a real control of some sort. Something like a control fuse for each class is really the only way to make it fair.

Well, if the fuse is realy fast blow it could work, but it would be stressful to change the fuse all the time for the competitors that dont know their own system.

My suggestion would be this: Power measurement in the amplifier output, with an true-rms power meter or AC current meter + Vac meter (true-rms as well)

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

That has some beef to it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif.

 

[helotaxi 5,000+ posts]

Well, if the fuse is realy fast blow it could work, but it would be stressful to change the fuse all the time for the competitors that dont know their own system.

If they don't know their system well enough to change a fuse...it should be a really simple matter for the installer to show the clown who blank checked his system how to change a simple fuse.

My suggestion would be this: Power measurement in the amplifier output, with an true-rms power meter or AC current meter + Vac meter (true-rms as well)

I'd rather the measurement come at the amp input. Actually reward competitor for using a more efficient amp. Encourage companies to make a more efficient amp. You could then use the power consumption to weight the SPL score. This could level the playing field all the way across the classes.

 

[DUMPED 10+ year member]

the fuse ratings are really only used in USACi on a large scale competition format.

for a company to underate their amplifiers for one organization would be a joke.

 

[djman37 5,000+ posts]

the fuse ratings are really only used in MECA on a large scale competition format.
for a company to underate their amplifiers for one organization would be a joke.

corrected, I believe.

and true.