I don't really like the loose sound that I usually hear from Subs. Mids seem to have a much sharper sound. The crazy bee sound from most subs just doesn't fit the music I play. My hope is that with a couple of 8" speakers in the rear deck, I can get by with no sub, or a small one in the trunk. I know it dates me, but the nasty burr, burrrr, burr, I hear from most subs just sound like blown speakers. I want to have clear music that I can actually hear everything. From the guitar rift in the beginning of Hotel California to Sting in Money for nothing, and the hard guitar following it You should be able to actually hear the music. It makes me old fashion, but I have been known to listen to Manheim Steamroller, all the way to Alison Krauss, and back to Nazareth, MollyHatchet, and Black Sabbath.