4 12's or.... 2 12's & 2 10's

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like... seriously .. dude.. read .. learn.. just keep you thoughts to your self..

im a noob.. i know.. i admit it.. but atleast i know when to keep my thouhgts to my self. and now is good time to let some of em out.. cause i know.. almost everyone on here thinks this way

thank you for your time

and remember ... no bumping durring the go cart race
ok thats great well go **** youself... it's great you know how to use the smilie buttons but in the mean time i have a point to make that is correct unill proven wrong and so far i look pretty correct... what have u brought to this arguement? only the knowledge that you are a noob... well congratulations on that, don't fcking post on sudjects you know nothing about to try to look like your are clever cause it makes you look like a f uckhead

 
ok thats great well go **** youself... it's great you know how to use the smilie buttons but in the mean time i have a point to make that is correct unill proven wrong and so far i look pretty correct... what have u brought to this arguement? only the knowledge that you are a noob... well congratulations on that, don't fcking post on sudjects you know nothing about to try to look like your are clever cause it makes you look like a f uckhead

coming from a guy that runs 2 10s and 1 12 @ the same time in the same car..ROFL...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh:

 
coming from a guy that runs 2 10s and 1 12 @ the same time in the same car..ROFL...//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif :laugh:
hmmm mabe if you payed attension to the thread u'd know why

 
well ur just brilliant:rolleyes: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/*******.gif.a649d21efc0d1fd4890a6428166586c1.gif
this thread is all everybody needs to see..

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213428

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this thread is all everybody needs to see..
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213428

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they share different airspaces and are set to different peak frequencies
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ok but the maximum linear outut is what we are talking about, if you wanna take it like that, then a 12" shit sub like a sony is louder than a 10" DD9500 up untill a certain point.. does this mean the 12 is louder? no...
and the 13 will allways use less power to make the same volume as the 2 10's... and at full output the 13 will be putting out more sound using 500 watts than 2 subs using 800 watts... infact if you wanna go by the percentages, it would take 1100 watts with tens, to match 500 with a 13
Yes, the 13" driver has a higher POTENTIAL linear displacement, I don't think you realize that either setup will almost never use their full linear excursion.

Say you give both setups a certain amount of power, that allows them both to reach 10mm of xmax, the 10" setup has more piston area that the 1 13" and since they're both at the same level of excursion at this point surface area is going to dictate which setup will have more output, and since the 10" drivers do they will be louder.

The 10" setup will be louder up to a point, I don't understand why you can't see that, basing your entire argument on x is louder than y because it has a higher linear displacement, is trivial at best, you're not seeing that you almost NEVER use a driver's full linear displacement.

basically if you take a (2) 10"'s and (1) 13" and give them any X amount of power.. the 13 will allways be louder than the 10's with that same x amount of power... (not concerning enclosures so we will say free air)
lets plug in some easy numbers starting with maximum potential(thermal rateing)...

@ max power: 2 10's using 800

@ half power: 2 10's using 400

@ 1/4 power: 2 10's using 200

Since you said X, and I know my math is a little rusty, but generally when X is used as a variable, it's the same in the entire equation, so uhhh if X=500 then 2x=1000, and since we're talking about 1 driver compared to 2, the 2x would be the 10s.

You're also assuming that the 13" driver will be more efficient, even with what you listed up there, you don't know anything for certain so you can't say x will be louder than y, because you just don't know.
 
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