2 pairs of front tweeters?

[headless 10+ year member]

Hate to say it, but if you want loud but sounds good, not just 'screaming loud', you're going to need a budget higher than a set of CMX kicks. Don't get me wrong, the CMX kicks set is a good set...it's just not designed around extreme volumes.

Lots of people will thumb their noses at paying more than 50$ for a speaker. Those people are probably not trying to build a car that sounds good; only one that gets loud. It's all about your priorities. Not saying you can't get good results cheaply, if you have good processing and a lot of time and expertise with tuning, but most people don't have the equipment to get things set properly when running multiple pairs of tweeters... just as you typed; you're already fighting just to get what you already have installed in your car.

Just saying, you get what you pay for (to an extent). What is your subwoofer soundstage composed of?

 

[JL Audio 5,000+ posts]

Ok, now I feel a little better. I know the phase shifts would be an issue...I'm just so fed up with mediocre highs...I said **** it! My cmx kicks active at 100w a piece weren't even close to enough. The only tweets I've seen that handle a lot of power are waaaay outta my price range.
So on these seleniums, how will they perform on the door panels facing perpendicular to the road? I highly highly doubt I can get em in the dash. Shit...now that I think of it no more wires fit through my accords electrical boot connection in the door cause Honda's retarded...I'd have to run them passive with my cmx woods and makeshift covers to get em anywhere on the door.

imagine me trying to fit 48 of those ST350s in my astro with a wall right behind the front seats..

fun times, sold them all on here for the cheap too.

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

Hate to say it, but if you want loud but sounds good, not just 'screaming loud', you're going to need a budget higher than a set of CMX kicks. Don't get me wrong, the CMX kicks set is a good set...it's just not designed around extreme volumes.
Lots of people will thumb their noses at paying more than 50$ for a speaker. Those people are probably not trying to build a car that sounds good; only one that gets loud. It's all about your priorities. Not saying you can't get good results cheaply, if you have good processing and a lot of time and expertise with tuning, but most people don't have the equipment to get things set properly when running multiple pairs of tweeters... just as you typed; you're already fighting just to get what you already have installed in your car.

Just saying, you get what you pay for (to an extent). What is your subwoofer soundstage composed of?

yes, im aware of this. thats what it comes down to..priorities...thats why ive been running a half blown front stage for 1.5 years. im a full time grad student working 2 jobs to support myself and still not being able to do so because of unforeseen medical issues and no health insurance :/ so i think cheap fix = best. i just cant take it anymore...having no highs is like having no music.

so how do these pro speakers perform off axis? were talking like nearly 90 degrees here for the drivers side too lol. if they cant be that far off axis, what is a good place? i have a 2003 accord coupe if that helps. also, can these be crossed low enough to couple with my existing mid-bass drivers (and/or future replacement mid-bass drivers)?

my substage is 2 Fi Q's sealed running off a USAmps M2D2. i need to build a new box too btw, output sux. rear deck has rainbow SL69's running of source unit. source unit is pioneer 9800BT. and the current front stage is active on a PG xenon 200.4 and crossed with a memphis... 16x03 i believe it is.

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

why in God's name would you put 48 supertweeters in an astro van? lol trying to have your van double as a concert venue? lol

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

i just noticed in the specs they say "musical program" = 2 x WRMS...WTF? i hate when companies do this. well regardless, there sensitivity is REALLY high. they also say to run passive, so is my memphis out? id need some xovers too then :/

so are there comparable car audio tweets around the same price? and can anyone comment on SQ compared to my rainbows (or at least a familiar lower end comp set).

3-way setup with supertweet, mid-ramge horn, and woof?

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

any feedback on SQ? also, recommendation on similar woofers (cheap but get loud with decent SQ)?

 

[Mattd0344 10+ year member]

any feedback on SQ? also, recommendation on similar woofers (cheap but get loud with decent SQ)?

I love my CDT HD-62CF woofers...

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

I love my CDT HD-62CF woofers...

are you going to sell me yours for $50?

 

[reclessantics 10+ year member]

I have 2 sets of components in my truck (1500 silverado ext cab) I mounted the door speakers in their spots, but took both pairs of tweeters and mounted them on the dash, about where the bottom of the windshield meets the top of dash board. shits so so dirty. have all components hooked up to an audiocontrol 3.1 that i put on my ceiling. so when i really want to make the highs cut, just turn the highs knob and its crystal.

 

[thisistiny 10+ year member]

Try these? Never owned one myself, but heard great things about'em.

Crescendo Audio :: Tweeters :: XST2 Supertweeter

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

I have 2 sets of components in my truck (1500 silverado ext cab) I mounted the door speakers in their spots, but took both pairs of tweeters and mounted them on the dash, about where the bottom of the windshield meets the top of dash board. shits so so dirty. have all components hooked up to an audiocontrol 3.1 that i put on my ceiling. so when i really want to make the highs cut, just turn the highs knob and its crystal.

I like the idea of easy control like that. Is that AC 3.1 an epicenter too to add bass where needed? I been thinking about getting an epicenter.

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

Try these? Never owned one myself, but heard great things about'em.
Crescendo Audio :: Tweeters :: XST2 Supertweeter

Seems almost identical to the seleniums. But it seems the seleniums have been around longer, so I'd be more inclined to try them to be honest.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

There is no difference between a pro audio speaker and a car audio one in terms of engineering for a car. You can't magically make a tweeter work better in a vehicle. The difference between car audio and pro audio speakers is that in pro audio you actually get what you pay for as things generally arent' marked up 500% to take advantage of stupid teenage kids. Also pro audio speakers will take abuse better and generally get ALOT louder. Anyone not running pro audio speakers in their car if they require high volume levels is an idiot. They can sound very good if implemented properly, just as car audio speakers sometimes can, it's install and tuning dependent. Many of the best SQ cars utilize pro audio drivers. I'd put my fronstage up against any SQ car on this forum, granted their arent many lol. Depth out to the hood, width past pillars and capable of peaks of around 120db's, so concert level volume. If your just dropping into place with no EQ abiltiy then SQ is a crap shoot either way, might as well get something that will be louder. A single set of PA tweeters will be louder than two sets of regular car audio tweets, actually if you add another amp each time you'll need 4 sets of them actually, so 8 tweeters.

Anyway if you want anther option than the seleniums B&C DE35 Neodymium Mylar Bullet Tweeter | Parts-Express.com. These cost a bit more and are probably a little nicer. B&C generally makes very good products. I've used several of their compression drivers and had good results even with their lower end stuff.

 

[harveyjerry]

Try a set of tweeters, which angle cups install on a pillar in front of you but I have mine that way and having to run the EQ I -s from 3.5 kHz up to avoid overloading s 6.5.

 

[Big Ry 10+ year member]

Wow, I been so busy I havent been able to get on my computer at all! Well I decided that I should go with the cheapest option given my current financial situation. I just ordered 2 of the Selenium ST200's. They don't quite have the same specs as the 350's, but they have slightly better reviews and are half the price.

Now, I just need a decent pair of woofs to match these tweets //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif