I really hate when people mention the SQ championships as a testimonial to the sub's ability. Gary Biggs could make an Abahn sound amazing, for one. And for two, those systems are judged at a relatively low listening level. No offense to you Polecat, and not taking away from the driver's capabilities, but to state Gary Bigg's as an example of what the sub can do isn't really a good real-world example. I hate it when people mention it, because then I have to look like an asshat when I say this. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif Just trying to keep some perspective here.