And you haven't proved anything wrong. AGAIN YOU CONFUSE YOUR OPINION WITH FACT. Get over yourself. You are the true epitomy of a conservatard. (10-96)
You mad at Obama?WERE YOU MAD WHEN..........?
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And you haven't proved anything wrong. AGAIN YOU CONFUSE YOUR OPINION WITH FACT. Get over yourself. You are the true epitomy of a conservatard. (10-96)
nothing, they won't leave it alone.
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a 2 party system is fuken stupid, anyone who believes in it is stupid, doesnt matter, dem or republican, whoever wins is going to ****, we need a 3rd and 4th party. I mean you get a choice between 2 ****** people to run the country? I think if atleast it was 4 ****** people we might have a chance.
And you are a true uncouth liberal *** hat who thinks spending more is the answer and taxing the rich means they will just pay the piper.
Funny thing is there is nothing here to stop businesses from leaving and there is nothing in the laws to stop businesses from charging more to make up what they will pay in higher taxes which in turn means everyone pays more. Then again I am arguing with someone who thinks stagflation was a good thing.
im a little late on this but no, the president can invade whoever, whenever he wants //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif, but he wont get funding for it. congress declaring war does nothing more than sign the check.
So GE owning NBC which showcased and grandstanded Obama through the primaries and election. CEO of GE Jeff Immelt wants cap and trade Obama in hopes of getting Cap and Trade passed means what compared to your examples? Sounds like something far worse the Enron or Haliburton to me. The GE-Obama affair, and Jeff Immelt
Again you put words in my mouth, you can't defeat what I say so you change it to something else. 5th grade attitude LOL!
Did you just post up something from the Washington Examiner? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! You just can't resist using all of these conservatarded links can you? LOLOLOL! It has about as much credibility as Faux! LOLOLOLOL!
Oh yea, Lincoln was a "liberal" Republican when the Democrats were "conservative".
Someone like yourself might ask "If Abraham Lincoln was a liberal, what happened to the Republican Party?
Below is your answer-
The switch began in the Democratic party with the new deal. That began turning the Democratic party more liberal. The Republicans became more conservative in response during the eras of Nixon and Reagan, predominantly, converting conservative Southern Democrats into Republicans.
The Republican party abandoned it's principals during the reconstruction era and the differences between the parties wasn't as big as it is now. There were several notable attempts to found third parties, which tended to be liberal.
Before the Great Depression, less regulation was thought to be healthy for business and beneficial for the populous. Many liberals and many conservatives agreed on this ideal. The Democrats tended to favor larger government with more regulation and the republicans tended to favor smaller government with less regulation, but it wasn't that strict. Teddy Roosevelt was a republican, for example, who was known as the Trust Buster and created the idea of antitrust regulations.
After the great depression, FDR came up with the new deal, which represented the theory that the government can help the people by regulating business and providing direct jobs and social insurance against poverty. That view attracted liberals to the Democratic party.
Nixon's Southern Strategy was an attempt to convince Southern Democrats, who were often Democrats because Lincoln was a Republican, that they should switch their vote, as their conservative views aligned better with the Republican party. Reagan cemented that idea with his Conservative Coalition, bringing together fiscal, social, military, and religious conservatives under the tent of the Republican party, confirming the Republicans as the party of the conservatives.
Lincoln was always against slavery. It was the founding principle of the Republican party. Their initial goal was to stop the spread of slavery into new US territories, under the theory that eventually the free states would outnumber the slave states by enough to vote to amend the Constitution and outlaw slavery. The South knew that and seceded from the Union between Lincoln's election and his inauguration after he was voted in without a single southern electoral vote. He never had an opportunity to free the slaves diplomatically, taking office already at war.
During the war, he saw the opportunity to free the slaves with the emancipation proclamation for 2 war related purposes. First, it gave the North a cause, something it desperately needed, as preserving the union began to seem not worth the bloodshed. Second, it caused massive runaways from the slave population in the South and many of those slaves fought in the Union army in the North. The proclamation specifically did not include the 4 border states that had slaves but remained loyal, however, it was clear that eventually those slaves would be freed too. There was a big risk that those states would switch sides, but Lincoln decided it was worth it.
Lincoln originally was against slavery, but he was racist, as were most in that era. Illinois had laws on the books that made it a virtually all-white state. Lincoln had no experience with black people. He invited Frederick Douglas to the White House in hopes of persuading him to lead the freed slaves to Africa to found a new nation. He learned a lot from Douglas and became much more racially tolerant. However, freeing the slaves was always a long-term goal of his.
Below is your answer-
The switch began in the Democratic party with the new deal. That began turning the Democratic party more liberal. The Republicans became more conservative in response during the eras of Nixon and Reagan, predominantly, converting conservative Southern Democrats into Republicans.
The Republican party abandoned it's principals during the reconstruction era and the differences between the parties wasn't as big as it is now. There were several notable attempts to found third parties, which tended to be liberal.
Before the Great Depression, less regulation was thought to be healthy for business and beneficial for the populous. Many liberals and many conservatives agreed on this ideal. The Democrats tended to favor larger government with more regulation and the republicans tended to favor smaller government with less regulation, but it wasn't that strict. Teddy Roosevelt was a republican, for example, who was known as the Trust Buster and created the idea of antitrust regulations.
After the great depression, FDR came up with the new deal, which represented the theory that the government can help the people by regulating business and providing direct jobs and social insurance against poverty. That view attracted liberals to the Democratic party.
Nixon's Southern Strategy was an attempt to convince Southern Democrats, who were often Democrats because Lincoln was a Republican, that they should switch their vote, as their conservative views aligned better with the Republican party. Reagan cemented that idea with his Conservative Coalition, bringing together fiscal, social, military, and religious conservatives under the tent of the Republican party, confirming the Republicans as the party of the conservatives.
Lincoln was always against slavery. It was the founding principle of the Republican party. Their initial goal was to stop the spread of slavery into new US territories, under the theory that eventually the free states would outnumber the slave states by enough to vote to amend the Constitution and outlaw slavery. The South knew that and seceded from the Union between Lincoln's election and his inauguration after he was voted in without a single southern electoral vote. He never had an opportunity to free the slaves diplomatically, taking office already at war.
During the war, he saw the opportunity to free the slaves with the emancipation proclamation for 2 war related purposes. First, it gave the North a cause, something it desperately needed, as preserving the union began to seem not worth the bloodshed. Second, it caused massive runaways from the slave population in the South and many of those slaves fought in the Union army in the North. The proclamation specifically did not include the 4 border states that had slaves but remained loyal, however, it was clear that eventually those slaves would be freed too. There was a big risk that those states would switch sides, but Lincoln decided it was worth it.
Lincoln originally was against slavery, but he was racist, as were most in that era. Illinois had laws on the books that made it a virtually all-white state. Lincoln had no experience with black people. He invited Frederick Douglas to the White House in hopes of persuading him to lead the freed slaves to Africa to found a new nation. He learned a lot from Douglas and became much more racially tolerant. However, freeing the slaves was always a long-term goal of his.
LOL you are going to have to do A LOT better than that. Abraham Lincoln was a liberal, so what happened to the Republican Party? - Yahoo! Answers nice copy and paste from yahoo answers
Nixon was not all of that conservative, maybe for his time frame but that would be like trying to call JFK a liberal when put next to Clinton (Clinton on his own was no centrist), Ted, and Obama he was more conservative. People want to say Reagan was not all that conservative when infact if you look at what he undone from Carter on many levels he was conservative. Your Yahoo answers quote is extremely weak as if you are going to talk modern conservative you have to mention Barry Goldwater http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater otherwise you would be missing the whole point and when you put the facts together you will see facts thrown together by hacks and then labled to try to pin down the "change" are just political jousting from a party that has to bury its past.
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This all started when you asked if the KKK is republicans. Its funny, now that you've been educated that they were democrats, you want to suggest its only because dems and republicans simply switched ideologies sometime between now and 1980. And your indisputable proof? You live in Tennessee and your cousins are ignorant redneck racists. If we started debating sun spots, would you also be an expert because the sun comes up every day in Tennessee? lawl
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Boy you left wingers sure are quick to label anyone who argues with you as right wingers!
Way to completely dodge my point, that your open ended and completely generalized comment means jack squat.
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