YAY! To Judge Ruling Against ID Being Taught In Science Class

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

If a God did exist, why wouldnt he just, say come down from the sky and be like "hey biotches I'm real" and save us all the hassle, just like he did in the Bable stories??

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[stones 10+ year member]

Faith.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

Faith.

What about it?

btw: can you remmeber the last time an inanimate object started shooting fire and talking to you when you were not on LSD?

 

[stones 10+ year member]

Don't need faith if he's sitting in your living room.

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

plus you have to choose on your own to do good. it serves no puprpose if God is stari you in your face, practically forcin you to do what he wants........... but lets get back on topic, cause this is really really interesting and good

 

[the_noob 10+ year member]

Intelligent design should not be taught in Science class. Even private schools recognize this. It is not based on science, it is rooted in faith. If it were based on scientific fact, then faith would not be necessary.

The only thing that bugs me is that people do not seem to recognize the difference between ID and creationalism. Creationalists believe in the whole ''God made the Earth in 7 days'' thing. ID simply states that we are here because of an Intelligent being. It is well-known that the stories in the book of Genesis are allegories. They are not meant to record history; they are purely symbolic.

Most Christians do not believe in creationalism.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

But notice what was said in the ruling.
Intelligent design is not science or a scientific theory, and therefore should not be taught in science class.

That's the main thing. ID is not, and never will be, science or a scientific theory and hence has no place in science cirriculum

I agree with your theory.

However, I feel ID should still be taught in school if evolutionism and buddhism and all the other religions are. Its prejudice to not teach it. Evolution has not been proven fact, so I think any normal, intelligent person with any true sense of reasoning, will agree that ID should also be taught as well.

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

Intelligent design should not be taught in Science class. Even private schools recognize this. It is not based on science, it is rooted in faith. If it were based on scientific fact, then faith would not be necessary.
The only thing that bugs me is that people do not seem to recognize the difference between ID and creationalism. Creationalists believe in the whole ''God made the Earth in 7 days'' thing. ID simply states that we are here because of an Intelligent being. It is well-known that the stories in the book of Genesis are allegories. They are not meant to record history; they are purely symbolic.

Most Christians do not believe in creationalism.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

1.)Genesis has been proven true time and time again by other secular scholars, and other secular historical writings. I will not argue this as anyone who knows the least bit about Genesis will not argue if it is true or not.

2.)Christians believe in creationalism..thats the foundation for their faith. Which again proves you know nothing about the Christian religion.

I am not a devout Christian, but I believe in ID. I think any person with a logical, even-minded thought process can conclude there are too many issues in this world to not be created by ID. However, the Christian religion...I have many issues with.

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

Don't need faith if he's sitting in your living room.

So whats the point? Does he want the majority of humanity to go to hell? The only way I will ever consider Christianity if is someone fetches me an untainted original Greek version of the bible, teaches me Greek, and explains it to me. Oh wait thats right, they destroyed all the original copies, so pretty much no one knows what it originally said. So much for salvation.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[stones 10+ year member]

 

[the_noob 10+ year member]

I agree with your theory.
However, I feel ID should still be taught in school if evolutionism and buddhism and all the other religions are. Its prejudice to not teach it. Evolution has not been proven fact, so I think any normal, intelligent person with any true sense of reasoning, will agree that ID should also be taught as well.

1. Evolutionism is not a religion.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif

2. Buddhism is not taught in public schools.

3. It is not prejudice to refuse to teach ID in Science class.

4. While it is true that the Theory of Evolution has not been proven fact, it is still the best that Science has to offer. That is why it is taught in Science class. (duh)

1.)Genesis has been proven true time and time again by other secular scholars, and other secular historical writings. I will not argue this as anyone who knows the least bit about Genesis will not argue if it is true or not.
2.)Christians believe in creationalism..thats the foundation for their faith. Which again proves you know nothing about the Christian religion.

I am not a devout Christian, but I believe in ID. I think any person with a logical, even-minded thought process can conclude there are too many issues in this world to not be created by ID. However, the Christian religion...I have many issues with.

I'm not even going to respond to your first paragraph.

1. Creationalists interprit the Bible in a literal, word-for-word sense. Apparently, you do not know what an allegory is.

allegory

n 1: a short moral story (often with animal characters) [syn: fable, parable, apologue] 2: a visible symbol representing an abstract idea [syn: emblem] 3: an expressive style that uses fictional characters and events to describe some subject by suggestive resemblances; an extended metaphor

The Bible uses many allegories, such as the book of Genesis, Noah's Ark, etc.

All that Intelligent Design says is that human being are here at the hands of a divine being. That's all it says. The words ''intelligent'' and ''design'' should be pretty self-explanatory, but apparently they are not.

2. The Christian faith is founded on ID. I'll bet you didn't even know that there are two seperate accounts of the creation story in the book of Genesis. Two completely different accounts. How could they both be true? Honestly.

I have had 11 years of Catholic education. I am a Catholic. Very few of my teachers believed in Creationism.

 

[flakko 5,000+ posts]

i like that picture a lot

 

[HeatSeeker 10+ year member]

haha nice. Reminds me of Democrats and Republicans actaully

 

[adio 5,000+ posts]

Intelligent design should not be taught in Science class. Even private schools recognize this. It is not based on science, it is rooted in faith. If it were based on scientific fact, then faith would not be necessary.
The only thing that bugs me is that people do not seem to recognize the difference between ID and creationalism. Creationalists believe in the whole ''God made the Earth in 7 days'' thing. ID simply states that we are here because of an Intelligent being. It is well-known that the stories in the book of Genesis are allegories. They are not meant to record history; they are purely symbolic.

Most Christians do not believe in creationalism.//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

science is based in faith also. if it wasn't scientist wouldn't keep trying when they test hypotheses and they fail.

not all christians beleive in a literal 6 day creation.

 

[Raven 10+ year member]

I still think it'd be better to teach both creationism and evolution in schools. A two week course over both. Let the kids make up their own **** minds.

EDIT: Before everyone gets into this whole "extreme logic" mindset, I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that there are limitation to logic that can not be overcome by logic in itself.