Work out supplements.. what do you take?

yeah, your right amigo....just got to the office and we sell those opti bags for 71.99..

the dymatize 10lb box here is actually 69.99...so i imagine its even cheaper online...i dunno??

the 12hr dymatize does not come in anything larger than a 4.4 at the moment, but at 32.99 for the 4.4lb, its just as comparable anyway.....but the taste is //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/eek.gif.771b7a90cf45cabdc554ff1121c21c4a.gif

anything pure whey is more expensive right now, because the raw whey and isolate have gone up in price so much over the last few months...

we used to sell those optimum 10lb bags for 49.99 not even a year ago!!!!!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wow.gif.23d729408e9177caa2a0ed6a2ba6588e.gif

 
thats not a bad deal really.....what it comes down to is do you REALLY need to spend the money on a pure whey isolate?...i've NEVER had a client make better/faster/more permanant gains by using the pure iso stuff....plus according to the breakdown on the web site that is a BLENDED iso...the dymatize is a blended iso as well...

once thing i know for sure....you gotta get enough protein in....dont matter if its from whey, eggs whites, chicken, or turkey....you gotta get it in....at the end of the day if your eating pure whey iso and only getting 100g, then its a moot point.

i tell all my guys the same thing.......if you like it and you can afford to eat enough of it, then go for it!! As long as you get the numbers, it will work.

 
started to take this:

BSN NO XPOLDE - Fruit punch - pre-workout

ON 100% Whey Protein - Double rich chocolate - post workout and breakfast

BSN Syntha 6 - Vanilla - before i go to bed

CL Orange Triad - multi-vitamin

Fish Oils

 
t-nation.com, been using their stuff for years. They sell Biotest direct on there, and with fast FedEx shipping.

Grow! Premium Quality Whey - my "all around" daily whey

Surge! - post workout shake, along with

Myoplex Chocolate Cream. mmmmmmm

 
That's very true, but the benefits of a fast absorbing protein such as an iso or the more expensive hydrolyzed far outweigh the cons. Me personally, I'm about to start an EC stack, and for the past week have eaten nothing more than spinach salads, chicken breast, and tuna and have already lost close to five pounds. Sure it's water weight and I've only been doing cardio every night (really need to goto the gym) but it's still working for me.

I really want to try an X-factor, Torrent, and EC Stack. Any opinions?

 
That's very true, but the benefits of a fast absorbing protein such as an iso or the more expensive hydrolyzed far outweigh the cons. Me personally, I'm about to start an EC stack, and for the past week have eaten nothing more than spinach salads, chicken breast, and tuna and have already lost close to five pounds. Sure it's water weight and I've only been doing cardio every night (really need to goto the gym) but it's still working for me.
I really want to try an X-factor, Torrent, and EC Stack. Any opinions?
hmm...dude, there are just soooooo many products out there these days its hard to say any one SPECIFICALLY is better than another....our company actually. manufactures pro-steroid and ec type stuff as well as n.o. and creatine products.....so i would have to imagine im SOMEWHAT biased...LOL...

also fwiw there are some **** good non ephedra based stacks out there ...Dren by mhp and methyl ripped by nx labs come directly to mind.....

torrent is a preworkout type thing right??

also, even tho we make a good no/creatine blend, i actually preferr the NOX3 overload by cmi.....

 
That's very true, but the benefits of a fast absorbing protein such as an iso or the more expensive hydrolyzed far outweigh the cons. Me personally, I'm about to start an EC stack, and for the past week have eaten nothing more than spinach salads, chicken breast, and tuna and have already lost close to five pounds. Sure it's water weight and I've only been doing cardio every night (really need to goto the gym) but it's still working for me.
I really want to try an X-factor, Torrent, and EC Stack. Any opinions?
If you're looking for a cutting stack, might I suggest looking into a Leviathan Reloaded/DCP stack by Palo Alto Labs. I've researched it a good bit now and found nothing but good stuff about this stack. People consistently get the results they are aiming for, including putting on muscle while burning fat. I've read a couple logs where guys are putting on about 3-5lbs at the end of a cycle, and it's nothing but muscle, as clearly determined by their before and after pictures. Most people report very little negative side effects. Most side effects that are experienced are less severe than those associated with other stimulants like ephedrine/ephedra or albuterol/clenbuterol. I couldn't find any information regarding harmful long term effects for it or any of it's ingredients.

With safety being my main priority, I feel confident enough in the supplement that I'm going to give Leviathan Reloaded a try by itself during my next cutting period in 3 weeks.

 
thats not a bad deal really.....what it comes down to is do you REALLY need to spend the money on a pure whey isolate?
I do, it sucks being lactose intolerant and trying to supplement. I can't even take meal replacements because they're all made with concentrate and that makes me shit like a...well you get it.

 
If you're looking for a cutting stack, might I suggest looking into a Leviathan Reloaded/DCP stack by Palo Alto Labs. I've researched it a good bit now and found nothing but good stuff about this stack. People consistently get the results they are aiming for, including putting on muscle while burning fat. I've read a couple logs where guys are putting on about 3-5lbs at the end of a cycle, and it's nothing but muscle, as clearly determined by their before and after pictures. Most people report very little negative side effects. Most side effects that are experienced are less severe than those associated with other stimulants like ephedrine/ephedra or albuterol/clenbuterol. I couldn't find any information regarding harmful long term effects for it or any of it's ingredients.
With safety being my main priority, I feel confident enough in the supplement that I'm going to give Leviathan Reloaded a try by itself during my next cutting period in 3 weeks.
leviathan has this.......

Proprietary Blend 907 mg

Yohimbine HCl 9 mg

*percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Ingredients: Proprietary Blend: Tribulus Terrestris (80% Saponins, 20% Protodioscin), Caffeine anhydrous, 3,3'-Diindolylmethane, Fenugreek, Coleus Forskohlii 20%, L-Tyrosine, Bioperine, Vitex, Cocoa Extract, Green Tea (70%), Rhodiola Rosea Ext, Acacia Rigidula Extract. Other Ingredients: Whey Protein Concentrate, Gelatin, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon Dioxide, Water..........

you made direct reference to albuterol/clenbuterol . both are either not approved for use in the us (clen) and prescription only (albuterol)

and make no mistake, that stuff has a whopping ammount of caffiene both pure and herbal....very stimulative, and very addicting....

also, that product has 9mg of yohimbine hcl per dose...and believe me that stuff can give you some SERIOUS side effects...

i usually dose my atheltes with 5mg of yo 2-3 times a day, and they very often experience trembles, excitation, headaches, and other "side effects"....but it varies from person to person...some guys are fine on ec, and get bad sides on yo and some are the opposite.....

but you cant generalize and say its better cuz it dont have eph or synephrine....

yohimbine is a stimulant as well....and the HCL version is hella potent..

 
I do, it sucks being lactose intolerant and trying to supplement. I can't even take meal replacements because they're all made with concentrate and that makes me shit like a...well you get it.
yes, but you dont HAVE to get a pure isolate to get lactose free.....although MOST isolates are lactose free ( or rather
there are some other blends that are lactose free....


 
leviathan has this.......
Proprietary Blend 907 mg

Yohimbine HCl 9 mg

*percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Ingredients: Proprietary Blend: Tribulus Terrestris (80% Saponins, 20% Protodioscin), Caffeine anhydrous, 3,3'-Diindolylmethane, Fenugreek, Coleus Forskohlii 20%, L-Tyrosine, Bioperine, Vitex, Cocoa Extract, Green Tea (70%), Rhodiola Rosea Ext, Acacia Rigidula Extract. Other Ingredients: Whey Protein Concentrate, Gelatin, Magnesium Stearate, Silicon Dioxide, Water..........

you made direct reference to albuterol/clenbuterol . both are either not approved for use in the us (clen) and prescription only (albuterol)

and make no mistake, that stuff has a whopping ammount of caffiene both pure and herbal....very stimulative, and very addicting....

also, that product has 9mg of yohimbine hcl per dose...and believe me that stuff can give you some SERIOUS side effects...

i usually dose my atheltes with 5mg of yo 2-3 times a day, and they very often experience trembles, excitation, headaches, and other "side effects"....but it varies from person to person...some guys are fine on ec, and get bad sides on yo and some are the opposite.....

but you cant generalize and say its better cuz it dont have eph or synephrine....

yohimbine is a stimulant as well....and the HCL version is hella potent..
Point taken, but I have found that most people who do experience side effects find them less severe than that of other stimulants.

 
yes, but you dont HAVE to get a pure isolate to get lactose free.....although MOST isolates are lactose free ( or rather
there are some other blends that are lactose free....
The only proteins that don't make me sick are ON's 100% and ISO XP. Absolutely everything else I've tried end up with bad results:eek:. I just bought some Whey Gourmet to last me a couple days (because shipping to Canada takes so **** long and I ran out), it's an Iso blend so I'm gonna see how it works.

 
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