Woman situation, what to do

I'm sorry this happened to you, cause you seem like one of the few guys who aren't an *******, and I've noticed alot of girls say they want that, but never go towards it.
It hurts, but you'll be better for it.
QFT. It took me quite some time to get over a few of my past relationships since a lot of women do say they want a nice guy, but then stab you in the heart. That was before I found the woman I ended up marrying.

It's a byproduct of the times we live in.... it's mostly about image nowadays, it seems. I attended my 10 year HS reunion in '04 and almost all of the women gravitated back to their old clicks. Some were the same old stuck up bishes and wouldn't even acknowledge some people when they approached to say hello and find out what's new the past 10 years. I hear the 20 year is a little better, and by the time you make it to the 30 year, nobody seems to give a **** about clicks. Sad it takes people that long to grow the fukk up. I just see it as their loss at life over the decades.

 
It's part of it I guess.

I just dont know if I can let go.

And I have had this happen one other time in my life, long long time ago. It tooks me more than a year to let go...

And it still hurts to see her, I have nights where I still want to call, time to time, just to know she's doin okay - but I know that will cause more issues and it just isnt worth it. I just didnt want this oen to work out quite like that, it was not a fun situation.

 
Man up dude. Go stick your dick in some other chick now.

Do you at least see where you went wrong with this chick to avoid it in the future? Do you know why you are in "friend zone" with her?

 
Yes I do.

I didnt come on strong, at all, or make any moves. I just sat back, relaxed, and kinda hoped something would work it's course.

I talked too much

I called too much

I was way too ****ing nice, which being nice is a good thing, but if you're overly nice it will turn a woman away.

Sound pretty good?

 
Sounds about right. When you're making first impressions, try to come off as an ******* when meeting new girls. Not too assholish, but a single snide, offhanded remark will usually get the job done. I try to direct it at the girl or something that she is relating herself to. Like if she's wearing Crocs, don't hesitate to input your opinion on how ugly they are. You get the point?

You insult her, and now she automatically thinks she doesn't have your approval. If she likes you and you have a chance with her, she will pursue the topic and try to justify herself to you. Hold your opinion steady throughout the argument though.

 
No real updates.

You're not getting nudes.

I backed down and said **** it, I'm going to deal with being her friend. I'm more or less pushing her off just a tad, making her put forth all of the effort

She still calls every day

And asks to come over every day

 
Sounds about right. When you're making first impressions, try to come off as an ******* when meeting new girls. Not too assholish, but a single snide, offhanded remark will usually get the job done. I try to direct it at the girl or something that she is relating herself to. Like if she's wearing Crocs, don't hesitate to input your opinion on how ugly they are. You get the point?
You insult her, and now she automatically thinks she doesn't have your approval. If she likes you and you have a chance with her, she will pursue the topic and try to justify herself to you. Hold your opinion steady throughout the argument though.
truth in this post, ***** it didnt work out for you this time but its all a learnig curve. i used to be the guy that said "how does she date that ass hole."

then i realized if you make a woman feel unsure about how much you care, they seem to be attracted to it. It works both ways, its the thrill of the chase. In your situation this could all work out for you, you're the nice guy she can hook her friends up with;)

 
Been there, done all that.

But I learned and haven't let it happen again.

If there are no benefits, why have female friends?

Unless of course you like senseless drama and listening to someone b!tch.

 
my buddy was in the situation only 100x worse.. he dated the girl for 2years and he fell inlove. one night we were really hammered and he got sensitive on me. (hes a 400pound dude who will knock anyone the **** out) i was kinda surprised but i went with it. he said "i love the girl and if she wants 2 get married to someone that is me ill still support her because i love her and i want her to be happy no matter what." with that said u have 2 options, fight for it and try harder, or help her with w\e she is happy with and when she needs a sholder 2 cryon cuz some guy ****ed her over be there for her no matter what and one day she might realise what she wants is right infront of her. thats what happened 2 my buddy one day she realised wow my guy is right here and theyve been re-dating for 2months now

 
You're a ***** man. Be scarce. If she calls you everyday and asks to come over, just make plans and ignore her for a bit. Girls get REALLY pissed when you do that... just don't take it too far, otherwise they get "hurt." Lawl. If she likes you, she'll come to you. Plus, the more complicated ****s like this are never worth the work. *****es come and go like the days of the week.

A way to test the waters - talk about other girls in front of her and see how she reacts. If she pursues the topic and starts questioning you, she might like you. If she's just like, cool, you = boned.

I've noticed a lot of experiences here parallel mine, really interesting...

Anyways, I think you've played too far into the friend zone. Try the thing I said above... if it fails, use her for her transportation/food/money or whatever and please, don't be a *****, don't be her shoulder to cry on jesus christ.

Edit - just read some of the last few pages of the thread. Just tell her to **** off, what a waste of time. In her world, she views you as a tool, nothing more. Understanding/realizing this will make you stronger next time around.

 
Keep distancing yourself and trying to raise her interest in you via said distancing and your newfound *****es. Without the latter and former, you will have no reason for her to like you romantically. If there is any hope, it will be brought out in her after you do these things. If you can't get this girl to like you in a couple of weeks by doing what I said, there is no hope. And actually, just thinking about it...the bigger of a ***** you were, the better it was. Because if you were just kind of a *****, and showed some interest, then she already knows and has made up her mind. If you were a complete ***** - and I'm hoping you were - then she may not even know the deal. So here's to hoping you were a complete ***** and if you man-up you will show her a side of you she never knew about.

 
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