Winners only.

[SlugButter]

Just stating facts. Depending where you live (don't know, don;t care), that's from $100,000-$500,000 in taxpayer money to give you three hots and a cot for 8 years. While you were putting nothing back into the economy. Yet you're going to b!tch that Biden ***** when the economy is improving almost from the day he took office?
You could work multiple lifetimes and never be "square" with the people who footed your bill of existence. Cost Of Living is right.

I don’t give a shit. No one is going to do anything about it. I served my time did my parole clean and beat the system. You and everyone else who thinks like you do can go fvck themselves, or try to solve it personally, cause the man can’t do shit. Good luck.

 

[SlugButter]

Mexican moonshine is really good tequila btw. Facts……

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Real numbers, but maybe tell the rest of the story: They (Real hourly earnings) are up about 30 cents per hour over where they were during the last administration. That's thirty real cents. Per hour. Growth.

From 2017 to the end of 2020, they saw a total growth of 30 cents. Over four years. This chart shows 30 cents growth per hour in ONE year. From 2021 to 2022.
That's failing?
Real numbers, my dude. Using the metric YOU chose to represent the state of affairs.

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[RobGMN Premium Member]

I don’t give a shit. No one is going to do anything about it. I served my time did my parole clean and beat the system. You and everyone else who thinks like you do can go fvck themselves, or try to solve it personally, cause the man can’t do shit. Good luck.

Of course you don't give a shlt. But sure can bltch about things you know nothing about.

 

[SlugButter]

Of course you don't give a shlt. But sure can bltch about things you know nothing about.

I’ve had some very coherent points that I’ve made in this thread using my own words and you reply with google searches and hyperbole you saw on Facebook. There’s a reason I stopped having serious conversations with you and just troll you when I’m drunk. You can go ahead and copy/paste 7 paragraphs that almost no one will read anyway. It’s all yours.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I’ve had some very coherent points that I’ve made in this thread using my own words and you reply with google searches and hyperbole you saw on Facebook. There’s a reason I stopped having serious conversations with you and just troll you when I’m drunk. You can go ahead and copy/paste 7 paragraphs that almost no one will read anyway. It’s all yours.

Sorry, but “using your own words” doesn’t add validity to nonsense.

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

Real numbers, but maybe tell the rest of the story: They (Real hourly earnings) are up about 30 cents per hour over where they were during the last administration. That's thirty real cents. Per hour. Growth.

From 2017 to the end of 2020, they saw a total growth of 30 cents. Over four years. This chart shows 30 cents growth per hour in ONE year. From 2021 to 2022.
That's failing?
Real numbers, my dude. Using the metric YOU chose to represent the state of affairs.


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the metrics I chose show the comparison of earnings with rising inflation costs... your chart only shows wages

yes wages are rising, but sitting below inflation... therefore the average American is down 3.1% REAL NUMBERS

you can stay in denial about that and keep saying people are making more money these days.... but repeating it wont make it true.

at what point are you going to get tired of being wrong?

also......

*Biden has failed to maintain the confidence of his OWN party
*His build back better bill failed. . . that was the entire agenda he ran on
*He instated his own border policies, and they were such a failure that he had to revert back and try to reinstate Trump policies.... but it was too little too late
*The disastrous withdraw from Afghanistan
*He killed 11k jobs his first month in by shutting down the pipeline
*He has embraced identity politics selecting people based on their race, gender, lgbt status etc.
*Failed on COVID even after being handed the damn vaccine by the previous administration and ordering mandates that he claimed he would never order
*He has thoroughly politicized the enforcement of federal law
*The military has been politicized and forced to interject woke theories
*And lastly it is impossible for him to even embellish the truth.

he lied about his son's laptop
he lied about Kyle Rittenhouse
he lied about what Trump said in regard to Charlottesville protests
throughout his entire career he has plagiarized (like you do) and took credit for things he never even done

that you just so convienately ignored

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

the metrics I chose show the comparison of earnings with rising inflation costs... your chart only shows wages

yes wages are rising, but sitting below inflation... therefore the average American is down 3.1% REAL NUMBERS

you can stay in denial about that and keep saying people are making more money these days.... but repeating it wont make it true.

at what point are you going to get tired of being wrong?

also......



that you just so convienately ignored

The chart shows Real Average Hourly, which is adjusted for inflation.
Real Average Hourly is the metric YOU chose to prove that wages were down by 1.7%. Except that decrease still puts wages at UP by 30 cents per hour in one year. It took FOUR years for them to increase that much under DT.

Your Keystone Pipeline “fact” is wrong. The CANADIAN pipeline was shuttered by SCOTUS when Trump was president. Had it stayed open, it would have employed very few Americans (see below).

"Build Back Better" was passed TWO months ago. You expect full recovery in just TWO months? Or do you say it "failed" becasue you WANT it to be a failure? TWO MONTHS.

Identity Politics - Is that the process of stacking the courts with old white men? Ones who even the ABA have said are not competent to rule?

Failed on COVID-19 HOW, precisely? By pushing for the public to do the right thing, and being fought tooth and nail by a bunch of fvcking idiots who don't believe in the vax, social distancing, masks, or even COVID itself? How is that HIS failure?

If you don’t even accept the metric of the economy that YOU chose (Real Average wage), AND you use a completely false premise to complain Biden $ucks (Keystone pipeline), and several other false premises as noted above, what does that say about the rest of your argument?

Real Earnings (as defined in the website YOU pointed to: "we use “real” or inflation-adjusted hourly earnings to compare earnings"

Keystone: "State Department report instead concluded the project would require fewer than 2,000 two-year construction jobs and that the number of full-time, permanent jobs would hover around 35 after construction."
July 2020 - "The U.S. Supreme Court handed another setback to the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline from Canada on Monday by keeping in place a lower court ruling that blocked a key environmental permit for the project.

Build Back Better: "The bill was passed 220–213 by the House of Representatives on November 19, 2021.

I'm happy to debate with you, but if you're just going to throw bullshlt at the wall and hope it sticks, why are you bothering? Don't be like the "I feel, therefore it is true" guys that congregate here. Come up with facts and figures, proof and evidence.

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

The chart shows Real Average Hourly, which is adjusted for inflation.
Real Average Hourly is the metric YOU chose to prove that wages were down by 1.7%. Except that decrease still puts wages at UP by 30 cents per hour in one year. It took FOUR years for them to increase that much under DT.

Your Keystone Pipeline “fact” is wrong. The CANADIAN pipeline was shuttered by SCOTUS when Trump was president. Had it stayed open, it would have employed about 1,100 Americans.

If you don’t even accept the metric of the economy that YOU chose (Real Average wage), AND you use a completely false premise to complain Biden ***** (Keystone), what does that say about the rest of your argument?

the metrics i posted are from the department of labor

the metrics you posted make no mention of inflation so i can only guess you are assuming its adjusted for inflation and ultimately shows a downward trend

there is a reason Biden was sued by 20 states for cancelling the pipeline

keep lying to yourself kid. its obvious no matter how many times you are proven wrong you will just deny deny deny ..... have fun with all of that.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

the metrics i posted are from the department of labor

the metrics you posted make no mention of inflation so i can only guess you are assuming its adjusted for inflation and ultimately shows a downward trend

there is a reason Biden was sued by 20 states for cancelling the pipeline

keep lying to yourself kid. its obvious no matter how many times you are proven wrong you will just deny deny deny ..... have fun with all of that.

The term "Real Average Hourly Wages" MEANS they are adjusted for inflation.
Did you even read the quote that says: "Real Earnings (as defined in the website YOU pointed to: "we use “real” or inflation-adjusted hourly earnings to compare earnings" ?

Of course there is a reason he was sued. They wanted the pipeline to go through. So what? The SCOTUS that was stuffed by Trump said no, WHILE TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE. July 2020.

Lying to myself? I used YOUR chosen metric (Real Average Hourly Wages), which shows we are well ahead of where we were under Trump. Trump's 4 years gave us a 30 cent increase. That has happened in ONE year under Biden.
If that's not the metric you want to use, then why did you use it?!?!

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

When it comes to the backpedal, you **** so much you could pull a golf ball through a ten foot garden hose.
You used the wrong term b/c you don't have a ******* clue. Talk about lost: The "professional driver" who was delivering pizzas instead of getting a job driving a rig when companies were BEGGING for help. You really bury yourself every time you post. Must be a masochist.
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You think that is backpedaling? LOL More Democratic Propaganda.

Profession: A paid occupation.

Me, a car, me driving car, me getting paid to drive a car. <---Professional Driver - Fact.

Me, a truck, me driving a truck, me getting paid to drive a truck. <----Professional Driver - Fact.

Done both, got paid for both. Just shut up dummy.

We all know your tender feelings are hurt, that is why you are angry and lashing out with attempted insults.

Do you get paid to google "facts"? Is that your real profession? Do you sit at your mom's house getting government assistance while using your mom's WiFi to take surveys all day?

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

The term "Real Average Hourly Wages" MEANS they are adjusted for inflation.
Did you even read the quote that says: "Real Earnings (as defined in the website YOU pointed to: "we use “real” or inflation-adjusted hourly earnings to compare earnings" ?

Of course there is a reason he was sued. They wanted the pipeline to go through. So what? The SCOTUS that was stuffed by Trump said no, WHILE TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE. July 2020.

Lying to myself? I used YOUR chosen metric (Real Average Hourly Wages), which shows we are well ahead of where we were under Trump. Trump's 4 years gave us a 30 cent increase. That has happened in ONE year under Biden.
If that's not the metric you want to use, then why did you use it?!?!

you are brain dead af bro

lower wages under Trump that sat over the inflation line

higher wages under Biden that sit under the inflation line

again,

Real average hourly earnings decreased 1.7 percent, seasonally adjusted, from January 2021 to January
2022. The change in real average hourly earnings combined with a decrease of 1.4 percent in the
average workweek resulted in a 3.1-percent decrease in real average weekly earnings over this period.

this is directly quoted from the annual report from department of labor.... I trust their finding more then the b.s. you try to spin

 

[Kayge 10+ year member]

Your Keystone Pipeline “fact” is wrong. The CANADIAN pipeline was shuttered by SCOTUS when Trump was president. Had it stayed open, it would have employed very few Americans (see below).

Biden issued the executive order that killed the pipeline

"Build Back Better" was passed TWO months ago. You expect full recovery in just TWO months? Or do you say it "failed" becasue you WANT it to be a failure? TWO MONTHS.

it was a complete failure. The budget for that bill went through multiple slashing and fails to deliver on many of his promises.

Identity Politics - Is that the process of stacking the courts with old white men? Ones who even the ABA have said are not competent to rule?

stacking it with lesser qualified people based on their race, ***, or ****** orientation is the more "winning" way to go about it huh?

Failed on COVID-19 HOW, precisely? By pushing for the public to do the right thing, and being fought tooth and nail by a bunch of fvcking idiots who don't believe in the vax, social distancing, masks, or even COVID itself? How is that HIS failure?

The funny thing is you think masks and a 6 ft distance protects you from the virus.... and the vax is not a cure at all. The person i got covid from was fully vaxxed lmao

even outside of that, he walked back his own promise that he wouldn't force mandates, and he thinks the vaccines work but couldn't curve the virus even with the vaccine handed to him by the previous administration. Forces mandates on Americans but allows unvaxxed illegals to waltz in through the border

If you don’t even accept the metric of the economy that YOU chose (Real Average wage), AND you use a completely false premise to complain Biden $ucks (Keystone pipeline), and several other false premises as noted above, what does that say about the rest of your argument?

nothing i posted is false. you just try to make up your own version of numbers and fabricate your own facts

Real Earnings (as defined in the website YOU pointed to: "we use “real” or inflation-adjusted hourly earnings to compare earnings"

Keystone: "State Department report instead concluded the project would require fewer than 2,000 two-year construction jobs and that the number of full-time, permanent jobs would hover around 35 after construction."
July 2020 - "The U.S. Supreme Court handed another setback to the Keystone XL oil sands pipeline from Canada on Monday by keeping in place a lower court ruling that blocked a key environmental permit for the project.

Build Back Better: "The bill was passed 220–213 by the House of Representatives on November 19, 2021.

I'm happy to debate with you, but if you're just going to throw bullshlt at the wall and hope it sticks, why are you bothering? Don't be like the "I feel, therefore it is true" guys that congregate here. Come up with facts and figures, proof and evidence.

you really are sick in the head. like you have a legit disorder! the report findings are quoted in bold from the most reliable resource it can come from.... its FACT that Biden revoked the permits that ultimately killed the pipeline. Build Back Better is a stripped down shell of what it originally was and a complete fail for Biden

i cant debate with a delusional person. its obvious that Biden is your lord and savior and you are his soldier planted on earth to spread his holy word lol

again, have fun with that, im officially out of the conversation. Id rather debate with people who have brain cells.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You think that is backpedaling? LOL More Democratic Propaganda.

Profession: A paid occupation.

Me, a car, me driving car, me getting paid to drive a car. <---Professional Driver - Fact.

Me, a truck, me driving a truck, me getting paid to drive a truck. <----Professional Driver - Fact.

Done both, got paid for both. Just shut up dummy.

We all know your tender feelings are hurt, that is why you are angry and lashing out with attempted insults.

Do you get paid to google "facts"? Is that your real profession? Do you sit at your mom's house getting government assistance while using your mom's WiFi to take surveys all day?

A pizza delivery man is not a "Professional Driver". A "Professional Driver" drives for a living. You get paid to deliver a pie, not to drive somewhere. You could deliver that pie on a bicycle, like they do in major cities. You think a bicycle pizza delivery boy is getting paid to drive?

Driving a rig is not the same as delivering pizza in a clapped-out Pontiac. If you think it is, try arguing that with someone who has a CDL and drives professionally. Hell, try arguing it with a limo driver or a taxi driver. Let us know if they agree with you.

"dummy" followed by "angry and lashing out with attempted insults". Ironic.
You need to work harder at not stepping on your own feet when you try to post.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

A pizza delivery man is not a "Professional Driver". A "Professional Driver" drives for a living. You get paid to deliver a pie, not to drive somewhere. You could deliver that pie on a bicycle, like they do in major cities. You think a bicycle pizza delivery boy is getting paid to drive?

Driving a rig is not the same as delivering pizza in a clapped-out Pontiac. If you think it is, try arguing that with someone who has a CDL and drives professionally. Hell, try arguing it with a limo driver or a taxi driver. Let us know if they agree with you.

"dummy" followed by "angry and lashing out with attempted insults". Ironic.
You need to work harder at not stepping on your own feet when you try to post.

I was neither angry or lashing out. I was pointing out your likely living situation.

There you go again ignoring a dictionary definition.

Delivering pizza paid my bills and bought me food. I was earning a living.

You are right, driving a rig and driving a car are different. Only in regards to the type of vehicle though. However, getting paid to drive is getting paid to drive period. It is NOT dependent on if you have a CDL dummy.

They don't have to agree with me. That is the beauty of all this. You don't have to agree at all if you don't want to. Doesn't make you right though just because you disagree.