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[ThxOne Premium Member]

It’s his diversion tactic. He was proved wrong, but tries to divert attention to a different topic.

You know all about diversion tactics don't you Rob.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

One is correct, the other has been accepted over time. Unless you think I am wrong in saying that.

So, it’s a slang version that you used.
Got it.
Why would you use a slang phrase in a post where you are trying to cut me and Jimi down for using and discussing a slang phrase?
Seems hypocritical.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

When you were "left with questions", did you make any effort to to get an answer to those "questions", or did you just continue to defend Mauch by just asking more of these "questions"?

There was no need to prove anything to myself. I gave you my opinion of what I read. You are the one who thinks it needs to be more complicated.

You say you "questioning the writers of the material". The letter were written by Mauch over the course of years.
In what way did you question the writer (Mauch) to see if he really meant what he wrote, or if it had meaning other than what HE wrote?

I am sure he wrote in whole sentences and paragraphs. Where did you snatch the material you posted from? Or is it just you cherry picking his words so you can paint an unfavorable picture of him so that other can feel the same way about him as you do... with your help of course?

You never saw Shakespeare write a play. Do you then deny that it ever happened or question the existence of the play?
You are trying to use a philosophical idealism argument to defend his actions. But you are using the argument selectively which is disingenuous.
How about we say to you every time you blame Biden for something: "Did you SEE Biden cause it to happen? NO? Then it must not have happened".
It's a silly argument stance. As a proclaimed world-wise adult, you should know better.

You're reaching again. If I go to a Shakespeare play I am going to view the entire play, not something pieced together or paraphrased.

Not at all the case. i am stuck in reality. A reality where opinions/beliefs/feeling don't change irrefuatable fact

I have doubts about what you accept as reality then.

That's a weak backpedal. You didn't comment on the WORD "wheelhouse", you commented that I erred when using "in" before "your wheelhouse" as part of my response to you. You were wrong is your assumption, as proved by the simple use of a dictionary.
So again, I'll say that the skills reading and understanding words do not seem to be in your wheelhouse.

I am not wrong but you are allowed to think or feel whatever you like.

I expect people to do what they claim they do or what they claim they are doing. If you are going to try to show me where I am incorrect, I expect you to show me I am incorrect.
Instead, you show me YOU are incorrect.
Again.
It would only have been better if you had actually screensnipped the dictionary definition and example, like that time you shared images from a medical textbook that showed you are wrong.
Good comedy, that one.

Just because you possess the ability to Google does not mean YOU understand anything you are reading. So please, stop trying to act like your search skills add anything to your level of education or that it somehow means you can educate someone over something you literally had to Google.

Show us proof of the price of 85/15 Angus ground beef at the store near you.
When you are talking "the price of ground beef" as an average across the country, it is in reference to the averages provided by the USDA. Averages that you think are only lazy and nefarious.

I posted the picture of the 85/15 ground beef with the price and literally above the picture is the link to the Cold Springs Kentucky Meijer store website with the prices as well. I even said I posted the link for anyone to view themselves. I do not care or need the average prices across the U.S. as it is irrelevant. I buy beef HERE. These are the prices I pay.

If you want, I can easily prove to you that the real price of ground beef under Trump was $3.97/lb and that same ground beef today is only 33 cents more per pound, while the average US salary under Trump was $50K, and it is now $63K.

I am sure you can. Again, I don't care what your averages tell you or how this and that is only pennies on the blah blah blah. I don't buy food in any other area of this country.

So, let's DISCUSS facts about your complaint about today's cost of ground beef that YOU buy: What was the retail price of 85/15 Angus ground beef at YOUR store in 2014-2023?

Already did.

And? No one ever tried to deny that, nor was it part of your complaint that I shouldn't say "IN your wheelhouse".

But I sure hope this wasn't your attempt to tell us that we really shouldn't be using slang, because the phrase you used above IS slang, AND you used it improperly.
The correct phrase is "bye the bye", it is used in place of "incidentally" and it is used as a sentence connector, not as a sentence starter.
"bye the bye" - incidentally; by the way: used as a sentence connector

Oh Jesus. SMH.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So, it’s a slang version that you used.
Got it.
Why would you use a slang phrase in a post where you are trying to cut me and Jimi down for using and discussing a slang phrase?
Seems hypocritical.

I am talking about "In the Wheelhouse" seriously, try to follow along.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You know all about diversion tactics don't you Rob.

That’s odd, since you have complained that I keep bringing up the same topics, trying to get you to speak to them instead of tapdancing away from them.

So which complaint of yours is valid: That I keep bringing up the same stuff, or that I try to divert the conversation?

Speaking of your diversion tactics, are you ever going to answer the following questions, or are you going to continue to avoid and tap dance around answering?

What would YOU do to speed up the current drop in the inflation rate, or what do you think Biden or any other POTUS should specifically do to fix it? (No, the answer is not “get rid of Biden”. The question covers that base).
What was the price of one pound of 80/15 Angus ground beef for the years 2014-2023 at the store you are currently paying $7.79/lb?
Did you bother to do any critical thinking and research before you jumped in and posted your “questions” about Mauch, your claims that it all seemed falsified to fit a narrative, and that none of it happened since none of us personally witnessed it?

Let’s continue the DISCUSSION of those topics instead of you spinning off on tangents like my correct use of “in your wheelhouse”.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

That’s odd, since you have complained that I keep bringing up the same topics, trying to get you to speak to them instead of tapdancing away from them.

So which complaint of yours is valid: That I keep bringing up the same stuff, or that I try to divert the conversation?

All my complaints of you are valid.

Speaking of your diversion tactics, are you ever going to answer the following questions, or are you going to continue to avoid and tap dance around answering?

Like again and again? Did you ignore the original answers or do you just like making people do the same things over and over. Do you think I am a clown or a monkey perhaps and I am here to entertain you?

What would YOU do to speed up the current drop in the inflation rate, or what do you think Biden or any other POTUS should specifically do to fix it? (No, the answer is not “get rid of Biden”. The question covers that base).

Get rid of Biden/Do not do what Biden has done/is doing.

What was the price of one pound of 80/15 Angus ground beef for the years 2014-2023 at the store you are currently paying $7.79/lb?

What do you care? You are just going to keep arguing. Look how long you have dragged this on even after I proved to you with facts that 1lb of beef is over $7.

Did you bother to do any critical thinking and research before you jumped in and posted your “questions” about Mauch, your claims that it all seemed falsified to fit a narrative, and that none of it happened since none of us personally witnessed it?

I made an observation. Do you know what that means?

Let’s continue the DISCUSSION of those topics instead of you spinning off on tangents like my correct use of “in your wheelhouse”.

Look at you go, more diversions.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

RobGMN - Debate without personal attacks.

"Can you do it? Prove yourself here.
Any topic. Debate like a grown up."

Is it "grown up" to literally disagree with everything and tell everyone they are wrong? Is it "grown up" to dismiss anything anyone else says if it isn't your view?

There is your topic RobGMN. Can you be an adult and give an adult response?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

All my complaints of you are valid.

So I move away from topics while simultaneously moving toward them.
Interesting logic.

Like again and again? Did you ignore the original answers or do you just like making people do the same things over and over. Do you think I am a clown or a monkey perhaps and I am here to entertain you?

You never provide “original answers”.
If you think you did, repost them here because they cannot be found in the chat.
Perhaps they got deleted by a moderator.

Get rid of Biden/Do not do what Biden has done/is doing.

That is not a solution nor a plan, any more than saying we can stop traffic accidents by eliminating streets.
Tell us what is the correct solution to get inflation to fall faster than it currently is falling.

What do you care? You are just going to keep arguing. Look how long you have dragged this on even after I proved to you with facts that 1lb of beef is over $7.

Another tactic to avoid the discussion and whether your complaint about the price of beef has validity.
What was the price of 80/15 Angus ground at your supermarket if choice in Kentucky from 2014-2023?

I made an observation. Do you know what that means?

Look at you go, more diversions.

Diversions? I’ve asked you the same questions three times over and instead of answering them, you tried to say the phrase “in your wheelhouse” was not grammatically correct.

Stop with your diversions and just answer the questions that speak directly to Loy Mauch, and your side complaint about the price of beef.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

So I move away from topics while simultaneously moving toward them.
Interesting logic.

Do you?

You never provide “original answers”.
If you think you did, repost them here because they cannot be found in the chat.
Perhaps they got deleted by a moderator.

Or perhaps you ignore any answer you don't accept as valid?

That is not a solution nor a plan, any more than saying we can stop traffic accidents by eliminating streets.
Tell us what is the correct solution to get inflation to fall faster than it currently is falling.

It actually is. Let me make it more clear for you. I am that guy that tells you what I want. I do not micro-manage. You are the guy that gets micro-managed by the guy I tell what I want. I say, "Get Biden out and replace him with someone who will not do what Biden has been doing" You are told to figure out how to make me happy by the guy I spoke too. Make sense? Good.

Another tactic to avoid the discussion and whether your complaint about the price of beef has validity.
What was the price of 80/15 Angus ground at your supermarket if choice in Kentucky from 2014-2023?

Is that what you think the reason for bringing up the price of beef was? The complaint is Biden's inflation. If you let your mind move around that much in a conversation Rob I can understand your confusion.

Diversions? I’ve asked you the same questions three times over and instead of answering them, you tried to say the phrase “in your wheelhouse” was not grammatically correct.

Rob, show me things stored in a wheelhouse. Rob, explain to me where the phrase you keep using came from. Rob, explain to me any correlation between a wheelhouse and the phrase in one's wheelhouse (in reference to an area of expertise).

Stop with your diversions and just answer the questions that speak directly to Loy Nauch, and your side complaint about the price of beef.

Correct your spelling.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

RobGMN - Debate without personal attacks.

"Can you do it? Prove yourself here.
Any topic. Debate like a grown up."

Is it "grown up" to literally disagree with everything and tell everyone they are wrong? Is it "grown up" to dismiss anything anyone else says if it isn't your view?

There is your topic RobGMN. Can you be an adult and give an adult response?

Adults have been debating information and the accuracy of information for centuries.
I don’t debate feelings, beliefs, opinions, views, etc. I debate when people post falsehoods, lies, this information, inaccuracies, etc.

If you want to discuss your opinions or beliefs or feelings, let’s talk about cake. I believe chocolate cake tastes better than vanilla cake.
Now, you tell me what flavor you believe is best. Next line once we’re done with that, maybe we can talk about ice cream flavors, since there is nothing to debate about what flavor of cake is better to us personally.

If you want to have a thread where you simply get to post, what your personal beliefs are, then go ahead and start one. This is not a thread that I created to discuss personal beliefs or debate them.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Adults have been debating information and the accuracy of information for centuries.
I don’t debate feelings, beliefs, opinions, views, etc. I debate when people post falsehoods, lies, this information, inaccuracies, etc.

If you want to discuss your opinions or beliefs or feelings, let’s talk about cake. I believe chocolate cake tastes better than vanilla cake.
Now, you tell me what flavor you believe is best. Next line once we’re done with that, maybe we can talk about ice cream flavors, since there is nothing to debate about what flavor of cake is better to us personally.

If you want to have a thread where you simply get to post, what your personal beliefs are, then go ahead and start one. This is not a thread that I created to discuss personal beliefs or debate them.

Exactly what I thought your response would be.

And with that, for some reason we are still limited to 15 post in the dome, I will respond after 3:17pm tomorrow.

@RobGMN -
"You posted to say that you can’t post.
Man, you crack me up sometimes."

Unless the admins fix it I had too. I wanted you to know why the conversation stopped. Didn't want you to think you stumped me or something

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Do you?

Yet another diversion. Are you capable of anything else?
How could I simultaneously move toward AND away from a topic?

Or perhaps you ignore any answer you don't accept as valid?

Nope. I searched the thread. You never provided the 2014-2023 price of 85/15 Angus ground at the supermarkets you named where you shop.
You never shared a real plan that you would use, or that any POTUS should use to improve inflation.
You never explained why you continued to defend Mauch without actually doing any due diligence into his writings or his actions.

It actually is. Let me make it more clear for you. I am that guy that tells you what I want. I do not micro-manage. You are the guy that gets micro-managed by the guy I tell what I want. I say, "Get Biden out and replace him with someone who will not do what Biden has been doing" You are told to figure out how to make me happy by the guy I spoke too. Make sense? Good.

So you know that things are being done wro g without knowing how they can be done right.
You want an inflation-free economy.
Except that’s impossible.
So you are angry that Biden isn’t doing the impossible.
Got it.

Is that what you think the reason for bringing up the price of beef was? The complaint is Biden's inflation. If you let your mind move around that much in a conversation Rob I can understand your confusion.

You used the price to support your complaint about inflation, except you don’t even know if the price is actually a good indicator.
It’s a lack of critical thinking, due diligence, preparedness. It’s burned you in past. Why continue doing it?

Rob, show me things stored in a wheelhouse. Rob, explain to me where the phrase you keep using came from. Rob, explain to me any correlation between a wheelhouse and the phrase in one's wheelhouse (in reference to an area of expertise).’

Stop trying to tap dance away from the topic. We’ve already covered the phrase, the meaning of the phrase, the various ways it can be constructed.
If you are THAT convinced it is wrong, contact the editors of any dictionary where it is defined and usage examples are provided.
Give them your credentials as an expert in language, and convince them to correct the errors if their ways.

Correct your spelling.

Good catch. I’m sure that one letter sent you into a tailspin of confusion, thinking I had started a conversation about Loy NAUCH, when all along we’ve be talking about Loy MAUCH.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Exactly what I thought your response would be.

And with that, for some reason we are still limited to 15 post in the dome, I will respond after 3:17pm tomorrow.

You posted to say that you can’t post.

Man, you crack me up sometimes.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Exactly what I thought your response would be.

And with that, for some reason we are still limited to 15 post in the dome, I will respond after 3:17pm tomorrow.

@RobGMN -
"You posted to say that you can’t post.
Man, you crack me up sometimes."

Unless the admins fix it I had too. I wanted you to know why the conversation stopped. Didn't want you to think you stumped me or something

15 posts/day aren't enough to figure out if "in your wheelhouse" is proper usage???

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

15 posts/day aren't enough to figure out if "in your wheelhouse" is proper usage???

No, not when there are several topics.