Winners only.

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

‘“The men in black ‘convinced’ Mark Zuckerberg… that these were all Russian fakes,” Zakharova added, referencing the podcast.

She went on to surmise that this kind of “excuse for censorship” was sufficient to have made Facebook’s CEO comply with the request. The subsequent suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story “helped pronounce Biden senior as the winner in the election,” Zakharova noted, remarking that many Americans are still unconvinced.’

‘Zakharova concluded that all this proves that the “FBI and other American security services manually control digital giants,” with social media platforms’ leadership only too happy to “participate in dirty political games in Washington.’

Russia responds to Zuckerberg’s FBI revelations

Russia’s foreign ministry has claimed Facebook’s CEO Mark Zuckerberg confirmed in a recent interview that the FBI controls US social media

www.rt.com

We are clearly in a fascist state; the FBI and gov is censoring free speech. What a tragedy.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

In 2021 less than 600,000 EV were sold in the U.S.

Currently, in the United States, EV's are but a small portion of vehicle sales. What is full scale production is internal combustion engine vehicles. EV's are not there yet.

I was using your 9% number.
So, you think full scale EV production will only be reached when EVs are the only vehicles being produced?
Or do you have a specific volume that is “full-scale”?
Would you consider McLaren or Rolls Royce a full scale mfgr? How about Porsche? Jaguar? BMW?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I was using your 9% number.
So, you think full scale EV production will only be reached when EVs are the only vehicles being produced?
Or do you have a specific volume that is “full-scale”?
Would you consider McLaren or Rolls Royce a full scale mfgr? How about Porsche? Jaguar? BMW?

Yes, the goal is to replace fossil fuels is it not?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yes, the goal is to replace fossil fuels is it not?

I think the goal is to continue moving in a direction of least environmental impact, especially considering the geometric growth of the planet population.
Hence, we get changes like recycling, improved fuel economy, reduced pollution output, reduced toxins in manufacturing, etc.
If we can replace fossil fuels with something that is better overall, that should be a goal, no?

Would you consider a 2.6 million square foot plant producing 25,000 cars a year to be a full-scale production?
How about 4 million sq ft with annual production of 2 million vehicles?
Or a 10 million sq ft just being built for two specific models?
Are those full-scale?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I think the goal is to continue moving in a direction of least environmental impact, especially considering the geometric growth of the planet population.
Hence, we get changes like recycling, improved fuel economy, reduced pollution output, reduced toxins in manufacturing, etc.
If we can replace fossil fuels with something that is better overall, that should be a goal, no?

Would you consider a 2.6 million square foot plant producing 25,000 cars a year to be a full-scale production?
How about 4 million sq ft with annual production of 2 million vehicles?
Or a 10 million sq ft just being built for two specific models?
Are those full-scale?

No matter what the numbers...without govt subsidies...ev is very niche market right now...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

No matter what the numbers...without govt subsidies...ev is very niche market right now...

That makes no sense. Numbers are what determines “niche” or not.
And the discussion is not about “niche”, it’s about your claims that EV will not work for the purpose of product transport, in spite of it already happening.

You have yet to tell us your credentials and real-world evaluation of EV for OTR, short-haul, and local product delivery.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I've worked for over 7 years as a fleet manager...I've dealt with day to day logistics...have you?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I've worked for over 7 years as a fleet manager...I've dealt with day to day logistics...have you?

That doesn’t speak to your real-world experience and evaluation of EV for OTR/short-haul/local product delivery.

What are your creds to evaluate EV for these purposes, and be able to say Amazon, Rivian, Freightliner, Sysco, et al have all gotten it wrong, to the tune of a dozen or more billion dollars?
How big and what type of fleet operation do you manage? How many EVs are in the fleet?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

That doesn’t speak to your real-world experience and evaluation of EV for OTR/short-haul/local product delivery.

What are your creds to evaluate EV for these purposes, and be able to say Amazon, Rivian, Freightliner, Sysco, et al have all gotten it wrong, to the tune of a dozen or more billion dollars?

Yeah because I don't know shit about otr trucking...

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Keep up the Google knowledge...I'd take anybody with real world experience over you

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Yeah because I don't know shit about otr trucking...

You seem to just ignore the question in order to avoid answering it.

Are you unable to answer, or just afraid that the answer will show your evaluation of EV has no basis in knowledge?

Can’t you simply tell us your experience with EV for OTR/short-haul/local product delivery, and how your evaluation carries more weight than Amazon, Rivian, Freightliner, Sysco, Tesla?
For extra credit, can you tell us how big and what type of fleet you manage, and how may EVs are in that fleet?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

I can't compete with your innerweb degree...

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I can't compete with your innerweb degree...

In other words, you’re just talking the talk with nothing to back it up.
That’s cool. The internet is a great place to do that. The worst that can happen is everyone will think your username is simply a poseur. Commonly seen as a 13 y.o. with cheese-doodle stained fingers, hiding out in mom’s basement with a PC, pretending to be an adult.
Have fun, poseur.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Yes, the goal is to replace fossil fuels is it not?

I think there is what sounds good to the environmental extremist and then there is reality. In reality fossil fuels will be here until either we run out or what fossil fuel remains is too hard/expensive to get to.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Then let them. Drugs are a choice people make. You could put 1,000 pounds of it in my driveway and I’d survive just fine.
I thought you were the one who hates being controlled by the government. No you’re angry that criminals do criminal things and the government doesn’t stop them in order to protect you from yourself?
Pick a lane.

He's in the blame Biden lane.